GreyGhost Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I'm getting a lot of feeling of motion from the background except for the buildings and vehicles, will those receive motion blur as well afterwards ? Great Update Felix ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 (edited) Gosh, Holmes...I don't know what to say, so I'll just post a little more . Almost ready for shadows, etc. GREAT!! so you are good to GO !!! woo hooo... That is what happens when you have an artist in the family{sister is trained artist and studied architecture and nudes{ :) }..she was a F.R.S.A and Also held some thing like similar for her Architecture degree too...... Edited April 16, 2010 by HOLMES Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted April 21, 2010 Author Share Posted April 21, 2010 GREAT!! so you are good to GO !!! woo hooo... That is what happens when you have an artist in the family{sister is trained artist and studied architecture and nudes{ }..she was a F.R.S.A and Also held some thing like similar for her Architecture degree too...... Holmes, you should give it a shot, artistic talent often runs in a family. "El Terror" is mostly done. I have to refine a few areas and add the cast shadows, then on to the other Sabres and the Bedford refueler. Working to achieve a natural metal look has actually been fun (and a lot of work ). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Hello Felixdk Thanks for that morale booster ! I can draw but not as good as the others in the family..Did get good grades and came first in art classes but you guys BLOW ME away... anyways back to your painting... shadows and paint will surely give this one the depth and will look EXQUISITE on any wall that it graces!! Its is already looking 3 dimensional on the canvas... Good Show!! :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Super Sabres ! Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BAM'n'IVM Posted April 24, 2010 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Wow. I'm in awe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted April 26, 2010 Author Share Posted April 26, 2010 Thanks guys, I'm pleased that this is going as well as it is; I had artist's block for a couple of months dreading a total FUBAR on the natural metal parts. Now I think I'll go back to the 50s and USAFE again for my next one. I love the colors. 2 Sabres down, 1 to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 No 'blocking' my comment, those look Fabulous ! Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted April 28, 2010 Author Share Posted April 28, 2010 I really do love Sabres and these may have been the best looking IMHO. Refueling is almost complete. I have to clean it up some and add shadows (and the refueling crew <_<) A detail view Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 WOW ! That's some detail ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted May 4, 2010 Author Share Posted May 4, 2010 Thanks Gregg. It was pointed out that the paint on RAF vehicles had more blue in the gray than I portrayed, so I made the Bedford bluer and added a ground crewman by the far Sabre to get a feel for the scale. I've started painting the airfield buildings. The colors are my best guess from the photos that are available (black and white mostly). I'm trying to remember the old Nissen huts at RAF Chicksands when I was stationed there in the 60s and I think I remember them being an off white/cream color (maybe from age?). Anyway, I've got to keep moving on this :D Actually, looking at the image now, I think I'll make the crewman a bit bigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted May 5, 2010 Share Posted May 5, 2010 The bluer color actually helps the Fueler pop more in the background without it being overwhelming ... I like the crewman too, like you said though, a 'smidge' bigger maybe ... The whole scene is really coming together now ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted May 6, 2010 Author Share Posted May 6, 2010 Judging by my experience standing in front of the F-86F at the New England Air Museum having Walter Mitty type dreams, a six foot person comes up about to the level of the gun ranging radar in the nose, so I adjusted the figure by the fire bottle to that size and will add another figure to the port wing and maybe one by the Bedford. I'd love to put a fire engine parked across the road from the Watch Office, but the Fire Station appears to have been moved there later on in the life of RAF Shepherds Grove and I have no idea what the building that was there in 1951 was. Now back to working on the Watch Office. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 felixdk, SUPERBLY done.. the close up just a delight to see. :unsure: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neu Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 It's really getting there! I love the NMF on the Sabres! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 This painting has been sticking in my craw for 6 months. There was something that was nagging at me and I'm still not entirely sure what it was, however.... I've found some new info that suggests that I had the buildings to the north of the control tower and the roadways/taxiways wrong. I've deleted all the improper buildings and rearranged the paths and managed a self inflicted artistic Heimlich maneuver. I'm rolling again. Rearranged the scenery, textured the dispersal and roadways and added more motion. I still have to add cast shadows and more personnel on the ground. The cloud shadow is tentative and as advised by someone that I trust, I'll probably drop it. Time to get this sucker done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Man Felix! this just keeps getting better and better. I tend to agree about the cloud shadow. It seems a bit distracting. Maybe try toning it down first and if it's still too much, then get rid of it. I think the idea of a cloud shadow is good to help give the work depth, but it seems too stark as is. Something else of a MINOR thing. It doesn't really even stand out but the text on the tail of the foreground plane seems maybe slightly out of perspective with the rest of the surface. Like the text is either angled or sticking off the tail very very slightly. Again, it's so minor I wouldn't really even worry about it, but something to think about if you're doing this larger later on. It may even be an optical illusion because of the lightning bolts...or my eyes may be skewed. Either way, this is an AWESOME work. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Wow, I'm glad you've picked this one back up ... All the changes look great ... I'm in agreement about the cloud shadow also ... It doesn't seem to fit ... Looking forward to more ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falcon012 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 That looks gorgeous Don. I'm a sucker for the look-down perspective. The metal finish on the Sabres is spot-on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Thanks Bill and Gregg, that big shadow is going away, although I want to learn to use that effect. Bill, I think what throws you off about the tail numbers is that the area around them that they left in natural metal is not rectangular. If you look at photos of the actual a/c, you see that the front of the unpainted area is vertical, but the rear slopes toward the rudder at the top. Thanks Mark, you can get a great sense of speed looking down that it would be hard to duplicate at altitude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIG17 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I like the changes, take a second look at the car next to the CT, its out of scale with the building. I think the refuelers have the same problem. I'm in agreement about the clouds, but if you glaze the shape with the ground colors, it will straighten up. Keep at it, its really coming along Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I like the changes, take a second look at the car next to the CT, its out of scale with the building. I think the refuelers have the same problem. I'm in agreement about the clouds, but if you glaze the shape with the ground colors, it will straighten up.Keep at it, its really coming along Steve Steve, The Watch Office is a 12779/41 type converted to 15371/41 (smaller lower front windows) from what I can tell. It's 34.5' X 36.75' and the platform on the second floor should be at about 9-10' above the ground. The car is just a generic pre-war type upright Ford/Austin/Morris. My original intent was to put an MC-TC there (still might do it). Pretty much everybody that I was stationed over there with wanted to go home with a British sports car and I imagine it was the same in 1951 (I wanted a Lotus Elan, but Lyndon Johnson found out about my plans and had me drop-shipped to the Aleutians ). I'll give the size another look. I actually used MoD site plans to create a 3D version of the airfield that I loaded into Microsoft FSX so that I could get the look of the airfield correct. The refueling scene was laid out very carefully so that the Sabre and Bedford would fit correctly into the scene. A lot of head scratching went into that: WIP F-86A Painting . This is being done digitally for now, although I do have the drawing on an 18"X24" piece of gessoboard to eventually be done in acrylics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Steve, Thanks for nudging me about the car, I always thought that it was too drab anyway. Replacement will be a Red or BRG 1948 MG TC for some hot shot pilot checking out the air show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 RAF saloon has exited stage right and the MG TC is starting to take shape. If I enjoy doing it, maybe I'll throw in a Morgan too. Cloud shadow has been ditched also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
felixdk Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Saloon gone, one MG TC ready to paint. I gave it a Brooklands windscreen, I always liked they way they looked on MG T_s. I'm wondering if an XK-120 might complete it. Edited January 4, 2011 by felixdk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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