MESHER Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 (edited) Has anyone studied the instruction sheet for this kit and found any paint color inaccuracies for details painting? The instructions call to paint 95% of the engine X-18 Semi-Gloss black and I am not sure if that is correct. In the little detail book provided in the kit the real picture of the engine it looks more like Anadonic Grey or Gunmental not black. Also wanted to ask where the flaps up or down when parked on the ground? Never build a Spitfire kit that had seperate flaps. Edited December 5, 2009 by MESHER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edgar Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 All Merlins were black. Spitfires were rarely seen with flaps down, unless being worked on; the Pilot's Notes instructed them to raise the flaps immediately after landing, and before starting to taxi. Dropped flaps could cause overheating, due to the flaps blanking off the radiators' flow, and there was also the risk of mud getting into the hinges. Edgar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Edgar - do you know if there was any rhyme or reason to which Merlins had "ROLLS ROYCE" cast into the rocker covers and which didn't?? Also, in lots of period photos, it seems many of the bolt heads on the gear case, etc were left in natural metal. Do you know if that was typical, or was the whole thing assembled then painted black from top to bottom?? J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MESHER Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Tamiya made 3 new paints for this kit but failed to make a RAF Interior Green and advise to use their IJN Cockpit Green, hm...weird? I am not sure if that is a very accurate color match and is questionable given the price of this kit. Sure I know everyone has their own paint brand they prefer and there are several companies that make an accurate RAF Int Green but still makes me wonder. I have seen a few in progress picks of this kit and so far everyone has used the IJN Cockpit Green. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonB Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I wish they had made the paints in their normal acrylic line and not they spray bomb line. I don't do enamels/laquers, and I don't do spraybombs. I have the chart to mix the correct shades from their XF line, so I will see how that goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edgar Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Tamiya made 3 new paints for this kit but failed to make a RAF Interior Green and advise to use their IJN Cockpit Green, hm...weird? I am not sure if that is a very accurate color match and is questionable given the price of this kit. Sure I know everyone has their own paint brand they prefer and there are several companies that make an accurate RAF Int Green but still makes me wonder. I have seen a few in progress picks of this kit and so far everyone has used the IJN Cockpit Green. Just answered this on LSP; if you look on here, you'll find a thread on seat cushions, and it includes a couple of photos of a Spitfire seat, in the "proper" interior colour, not the grey-green seen everywhere. Edgar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edgar Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Edgar - do you know if there was any rhyme or reason to which Merlins had "ROLLS ROYCE" cast into the rocker covers and which didn't?? Also, in lots of period photos, it seems many of the bolt heads on the gear case, etc were left in natural metal. Do you know if that was typical, or was the whole thing assembled then painted black from top to bottom?? J Sorry, left this late; I believe that all British engines had the Rolls-Royce logo, but (for obvious reasons) not the Packard varieties. Haven't a clue on the bolts, unless they were anodised, or something; I'm trying to get hold of the Rolls-Royce Heritage Trust, on another matter, so I'll see if they know. Edgar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Av8fan Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) I picked up the paint jars this weekend XF-81 Dark Green 2(RAF) Xf-82 Ocean Gray 2 (RAF) Xf-83 Medium Sea Gray 2 (RAF) My LHS owner made sure to point them out to me. I got the last bottle of green. Seems the Armour folks are picking it up as well. Oh BTW, on the engines of FM-104 I noticed MAYTAG on the covers. Merlin Edited to add the names on the bottles. Edited December 7, 2009 by Av8fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonB Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I picked up the paint jars this weekendXF-81 Xf-82 Xf-83 My LHS owner made sure to point them out to me. I got the last bottle of green. Seems the Armour folks are picking it up as well. Oh BTW, on the engines of FM-104 I noticed MAYTAG on the covers. Merlin Hey, thanks. I didn't know they had them in the XF line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Av8fan Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Anytime. HTH. Oh here is some more Maytag stuff from Ms.Bardhal no less MsBardhal restoration I figure I will need about 8 bottles of each when the Mosquito finally gets here!(j/k) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonB Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Looks like Sprue Bros. doesn't have them in yet. Too bad they did away with the BIG bottles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Looks like Sprue Bros. doesn't have them in yet. Too bad they did away with the BIG bottles. I thought they had too, but I was told different. IIRC Roll Models carries the big bottles. They haven't stopped making them. You just have to watch what you're buying when you buy it. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonB Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I thought they had too, but I was told different. IIRC Roll Models carries the big bottles. They haven't stopped making them. You just have to watch what you're buying when you buy it.J Again, cool!The last ones I bought I had to get off e-bay for the large bottles, all the usual suspects had the 10ml size. They just don't last long enough, and I have large bottle of Tamiya paint that I have had going on 15 years that are still good. I at least I need white and black in the large size, I do a lot of mixing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'd support your efforts in producing decals by purchasing some if you do decide to make some (hint hint nudge nudge) :lol: Brad Edgar - do you know if there was any rhyme or reason to which Merlins had "ROLLS ROYCE" cast into the rocker covers and which didn't?? Also, in lots of period photos, it seems many of the bolt heads on the gear case, etc were left in natural metal. Do you know if that was typical, or was the whole thing assembled then painted black from top to bottom?? J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'd support your efforts in producing decals by purchasing some if you do decide to make some (hint hint nudge nudge) Stand by to stand by... ;) J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TuveB Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 What about Humbrol 78? It is supposed to be british interior green. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miccara Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Just answered this on LSP; if you look on here, you'll find a thread on seat cushions, and it includes a couple of photos of a Spitfire seat, in the "proper" interior colour, not the grey-green seen everywhere.Edgar Look where? Do you have a link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LanceB Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Look where? Do you have a link? http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=27111 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caiotfjr Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 What about Humbrol 78? It is supposed to be british interior green. Hey, no stinky enamels here... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I'd support your efforts in producing decals by purchasing some if you do decide to make some (hint hint nudge nudge) :blink:Brad I expect Eduard to come to the rescue with photo-etch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonB Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I expect Eduard to come to the rescue with photo-etch. No doubt, they basically have it ready to go. They just need to remove "PCM" from the etching of the PE set that comes with that Spitfire kit, and they are done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
is it windy yet? Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 No doubt, they basically have it ready to go. They just need to remove "PCM" from the etching of the PE set that comes with that Spitfire kit, and they are done. Some of Eduard's PCM parts do not fit the Tamiya kit, so parts like the instrument panel, and radiator faces will need to be redesigned first. Ron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 It would be pointless for Eduard to do new radiator faces for the Tamiya kit. But that seems never to have stopped them before.. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaysersoze Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I picked up the paint jars this weekendXF-81 Dark Green 2(RAF) Xf-82 Ocean Gray 2 (RAF) Xf-83 Medium Sea Gray 2 (RAF) silly question possibly, but are these paints available yet in the uk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Av8fan Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Hi, I found this thread on Britmodeeller. Sorry, I did not see anything else. Tamiya Spitfire Paints Given the dates I would think that they are going to be available anytime now. Best of luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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