He-111H-22

[Vautour]

Hello,

I'm looking for He-111H-22 cockpit references for my Hasegawa/Revell H-6 conversion project.

TIA

Vautour

[Matt_S]

Nothing on the H22, but the Aero Detail book #18 has pictures of an He-111H-20/R1 that is located in the RAF Museum.

Matt :lol:

[seiran01]

I think Revell is rereleasing the 111-h22 later this year aren't they?

[Chuck1945]

I think Revell is rereleasing the 111-h22 later this year aren't they?

The OP is asking since he is converting the 1/72 Hasegawa/Revell He 111H-6. This has never been released as a later H-22. I believe your reference is to the 1/48 Revell, formerly Monogram, kit.

[ThatJeffGuy]

Chuck...are you certain that the upcoming Revell H-22 is a re-pop of the old Monogram H-4/6? I guess the airframe pieces would be essentially the

same but the engines and the rotating dorsel turret would have to be added in to the H-4/6 pieces in order to do an H-22. Also some material

was added to protect the plane from the blast from the Fiesler's ram-jet exhaust.

Although I guess one extra sprue with the exhaust manifolds and Buzz-bomb plus rack would be all that is needed

For the OP...There are several internal H-20 cockpit pictures in "German Aircraft Cockpits 1911-1970" ISBN 0-7643-1873-X pages 186-195

The H-22 would be the same except for the control box and wiring for the buzz-bomb

The Black Cross Volume 4 book ISBN 1-85780-184-9 on the He-111 has a wealth of info but few interior pictures oddly enough.

Aero-Detail #18 as somebody else mentioned has some H-20 interior shots too

[GGoheen]

The Revell kit mentioned here is actually the re-release of the ProModeler He 111H-22, not the H4/6 versions, due for release sometime this year. The new kit will include the V-1 buzz bomb, as the ProModeler version did, but perhaps with some new decals. I'm not sure specifically what "cockpit references" are needed, meaning pictures of the He 111H-22 cockpit or a question pertaining to components or paint. In any regard, I'll see what I can find or scan to post that may be of some help. It's truly great to see Revell re-releasing this kit too, since it differs greatly from the more common He 111H-4/6 kits.

Greg

[GGoheen]

Here's a few of the instrument panel that may be helpful:

And one of the cockpit

Greg

[Chuck1945]

Chuck...are you certain that the upcoming Revell H-22 is a re-pop of the old Monogram H-4/6? ...

no clue, just going off the previous post since I know the Hasegawa 1/72 kit has not been done as the H-22 so it couldn't be a reissue of that kit. However I think the Monogram (ProModeler) 1/48 He 111 was done as such. 1/48 isnt 'my' scale.

If Revell were to do the Hasegawa kit as a H-22, it would need an insert to the upper fuselage to convert the mid-upper gunner's position to a turret mounting (as well as turret parts). Would be nice if they did, but ...

While it is of no particular help to the OP, I recal reading that the He 111H cockpit was simplified with some instruments repositioned, unfortunately I dont have any reference handy to confirm specific changes and with which sub-type the changes were implemented.

One of those modeling ironies, way back when, 40+ years ago, I converted the Airfix H-20 back to a BoB era early H redoing the lower gondola and upper gunner's position. Then years later I reversed the process making a V-1 carrying H-22 out an Italeri H-6. ...sigh...

Edited February 11, 2010 by Chuck1945

[chukw]

Greg, that IP was only on H-8's and earlier- see your last photo? Also, the upper main cockpit was different- it had more glazing and lacked the little flip-up "windscreen". The Falcon canopy in 1/48 has the proper configuration for the H-22.

[Jennings]

To answer the original question - I don't think there's any, or at most very, very minor difference between an H-22 cockpit and an H-6 cockpit. The 111 wasn't exactly cutting edge, and there would have been no need to change much of anything in the cockpit during the course of the airplane's development.

J

[Chuck1945]

To answer the original question - I don't think there's any, or at most very, very minor difference between an H-22 cockpit and an H-6 cockpit. The 111 wasn't exactly cutting edge, and there would have been no need to change much of anything in the cockpit during the course of the airplane's development.

J

Depends what you consider minor I guess. The overhead instrument panel was eliminated, with a new squarish panel added just in front of the control column to display the instruments that had previously been above. From what I can tell in the photos in Aero Detail 18, the control consol on the pilot's left was also reconfigured, but in 1/72 scale, those changes wouldnt be significant.

[GGoheen]

Makes one wonder why the ProModeler kit still includes the overhead instrument control panel since it was supposedly not used on this variant.

Greg