Flyboyf18 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) OK it's started; first couple of pics CP140101; Flite deck with access to TAC Compartment opened. engine intakes opened up. Edited February 9, 2010 by Flyboyf18 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 Next some work on CH149914; The first job is to make the 'ramp' style mlg sponsons. The one on the right is not modded and has the Naval style leading edge. The 'ramp' helos have a more 'pointed' leading edge, so I have added a strip of Evergreen .100" half round. side view the interior cleaned up a bit, I removed the funky arm thingies from the rear cockpit wall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 More work on the CP140; fixing the sonotube area, the Aurora had 12 tubes blanked out to install a vertical camera system. We also had a General Purpose chute, a bit bigger than the rest and the kit chutes are vertical whereas on the real a/c they were at an angle to the rear of the a/c so I am ovalling the chutes, check the aft row and enlarged GP chute. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne S Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) What kits are you using? In-case people do not under stand the Designations. CP-140 Aurora http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP-140_Aurora CH-149 Cormorant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-149_Cormorant Edited February 9, 2010 by Wayne S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 Good point; the Aurora is the Revell kit, but it is exactly the same plastic as the Hasegawa Update II/III, but obviously in white vice grey styrene. The Cormorant is the Revell boxing using the side walls from the VH-71 kit (plastic is the same colour) since the window frames are wrong in the Merlin HC3 kit. They are actually the style from the Navy version only not as subtle as they should be!?! I could have used the side walls from the Cormorant release but then they are yellow so the paint may look funny. Thanks for the Wiki links that's a good idea for any build on ARC, hint, hint....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne S Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thank you for the Info bud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaronw Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 So just to make sure I'm following this correctly, for the CP140 you are using a Revell P-3 with some modifications, and the Commorant is being done with 3 of the EH-101 kits (VH-71, CH-149 and one of the British Merlin kits)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 Yes, sort of, in the Hasegawa boxing of the P-3C Update II/III & Aurora they tell you to do these mods because they did not supply the alternate parts in the kit. The Revell plastic is identical to that kit, even down to the Aurora wingtips that you have to add by cutting off the P-3C tips. They do give you two air scoops that were used on our birds for a while for additional air to the cooling systems, I think, but they did not last that long and NEVER made it to the camo a/c. In the Revell/Hasegawa kits you have to do what I am doing anyway to make a CP140. I am going to attempt to add the vertical camera system flash unit located under the galley (two small windows at rear of a/c) by scratching it rather than the decal supplied by Hasegawa. The Cormorant base kit is the Revell HC3, mainly because it has the right main gear (2 wheels), I used the VH-71 sides because the plastic is the same colour as the Revell kit and the window frames are correct. I am using the nose radome from the Cormorant kit because it is easier to remove the bar across it rather than cut off and fill the FLIR mount on the HC3. Italeri did such poor research on the later kits (non Navy) that it boggles my mind in this computer age where research is just an internet away!!??? Revell is partly to blame here as well because when they did the HC3 they missed the fact that the mlg sponsons were different, they just added Italeri's sprues which were somewhat Navy specific. The Cormorant kit they (Italeri) released is the EHI demonstator that toured the world? to drum up sales and is not all that close to the real Cormorant, there is a lot of work to do (read scratchbuilding) to make it a proper CH-149!! Ahhh, if all the kits were perfect right out of the box we would be just builders, not modellers!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helo 53 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Yes, sort of, in the Hasegawa boxing of the P-3C Update II/III & Aurora they tell you to do these mods because they did not supply the alternate parts in the kit. The Revell plastic is identical to that kit, even down to the Aurora wingtips that you have to add by cutting off the P-3C tips. They do give you two air scoops that were used on our birds for a while for additional air to the cooling systems, I think, but they did not last that long and NEVER made it to the camo a/c. In the Revell/Hasegawa kits you have to do what I am doing anyway to make a CP140. I am going to attempt to add the vertical camera system flash unit located under the galley (two small windows at rear of a/c) by scratching it rather than the decal supplied by Hasegawa.The Cormorant base kit is the Revell HC3, mainly because it has the right main gear (2 wheels), I used the VH-71 sides because the plastic is the same colour as the Revell kit and the window frames are correct. I am using the nose radome from the Cormorant kit because it is easier to remove the bar across it rather than cut off and fill the FLIR mount on the HC3. Italeri did such poor research on the later kits (non Navy) that it boggles my mind in this computer age where research is just an internet away!!??? Revell is partly to blame here as well because when they did the HC3 they missed the fact that the mlg sponsons were different, they just added Italeri's sprues which were somewhat Navy specific. The Cormorant kit they (Italeri) released is the EHI demonstator that toured the world? to drum up sales and is not all that close to the real Cormorant, there is a lot of work to do (read scratchbuilding) to make it a proper CH-149!! Ahhh, if all the kits were perfect right out of the box we would be just builders, not modellers!! Flyboyf18 , I'm not trying to hijack your topic but I'll be watching with great interest how you build your CH-149 . I recently picked up Italeri's 1/72 Cormorant but after reading what you said about the work required to make the Italeri kit passable as a Canadian bird , I'll be copying lots of pic's you post . I have a few EH-101 kits in my stash ; At this early stage I may have to consider another Revell HC-3 kit especially when I need duel rear main wheels just for starters . Please Sir , keep the info and pic's coming . Kind regards John . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emvar Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I'll be watching this thread with interest too. Here is some more reference that I have found on the net. Reference build. CH-149 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Here's some more progress on the CH149, the modified sponsons. Our birds do not have the step at the rear underside and no little door in that area plus different flotation bag covers. I am hoping to try to cast this so I do not have to scratch any more. slightly different view; Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne S Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) I would not have noticed that till you showed the parts. Someday, I would like to learn casting. Edited February 25, 2010 by Wayne S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remington Box Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 Interesting... do you have any pictures of CP140101? I cannot find anything, I would love to see what you are striving for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 I am planning on doing the early scheme, white over grey with the lightning stripe on the sides, since that was the colour of all the Auroras I flew on. There are 3 pics in the walk around section and probably quite a few on airliners.net, this is where I have picked all my ref pics so really cannot link to anything. Also have a look at Hazer's Flightline here; http://www.hazersflightline.com/index1.htm click Canadian Air Force and then go to the Aurora page. His are all grey birds but go to the CP107 Argus page and have a look thru there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pbishop Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) Looking forward to seeing what yours is going to look like in the old scheme. Keep posting the pics so I can steal some ideas, lol. Nice work so far! Edited March 10, 2010 by pbishop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remington Box Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Wow! So would this be considered the contemporary to the Lancaster that the RCAF used for rescue? It looks like about the same scheme, and I would guess close to the same mission. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Well the Argus (I have time on this bird) replaced the Lanc, and had SAR as a secondary role. Since the Argus was not pressurized we could open doors/hatches and toss out life rafts to survivors. The Aurora replaced the Argus and also had SAR as a secondary role but was a pressurized bird so the boffins developed a SKAD (Survival Kit AirDroppable) which was mounted in the bomb bay and dropped near any survivors. Have done some more work on both but haven't had time to upload pics since I have a rush project to do by Wed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Looking forward to seeing what yours is going to look like in the old scheme. Keep posting the pics so I can steal some ideas, lol. Nice work so far! Thanks and here is a tip; see the small window just above the engines and between the overwing escape hatch and forward bubble? Fill it in or paint over it it was never on the Aurora, most likely on an Arcturus but not the CP140. Also looks like you still need to put the Aurora wingtips in place, were they in your kit? Looking good so far! Ahhhhh Moosehead and models, great combination!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pbishop Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) Yeah i have the tips just didnt put them on yet. I just finished gluing the two halves and wings on so there is still some work to be done. The tubes were already filled underneath but there's still some filling to do. Thanks for the tip, I probably would have missed that one. Thanks. Too bad there arent any argus kits around. As for the moosehead, well.... its not so much the mix of moosehead and models the problem. It was the mix of moosehead and molson ex. Guess I am lucky I posted a picture of that side of the aircraft. Also took a look and it seems the 140A doesnt have the window either. Also quick note: I dont know if you put this kit together before Flyboy, but if you are planning to display it on its 3 wheels, make sure you have LOTS of weight in the front. I started with a 7/16" nut in the nose and just had to cut the bay doors open to add more because it wasnt enough. I now have 2 x 7/16" nuts and 2 x 1/2" grade 8 steel nuts in the front and it seems to be just enough to keep it on the nose wheel. Hope it helps you out, if you werent planning to open up the bay doors. Just though my pain in the @## experience might save you some frustration later on. lol. Edited March 3, 2010 by pbishop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 Quick update; this is the rush project I needed done, watch the home page for more info. Did some interior detailing to the Cormorant; Started work on the winch and nite sun; winch is on the left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaronw Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Which X-1 kit is that? I did the Hobbycraft one a few years ago, I thought it was a nice kit and did it in about 2 days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted March 27, 2010 Author Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hobbycrap did it in about a week, Steve should put up my article in about 2 weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Any progress on the Aurora??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 Doubt I will get either kit finished for the end of GB, too much going on and now building some kits for an upcoming contest. Will post the birds when I get back to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trojan Thunder Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Thanks, well I might get my Aurora finished before then then again I probably won't..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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