loftycomfort Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 What's the better way to model a 1/32 Israeli F-4E? 1) Tamiya F-4E + CAM Phantom slatted wing conversion set 2) Revell F-4E/F 3) Kitbashing Tamiya F-4E with Revell F-4E slatted wings TIA Terry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Personally, I would start with the Revell kit myself. It might have some minor shape issues compared to Tamiya, but it does have the slatted wing OOB meaning really only the slotted stabilizers are needed for it so it should be the easiest path to conversion. Trying to kitbash with a Tamiya sounds like a potential for disaster and while I haven't heard bad things about CAM's slatted wing conversion set, I typically like to work in styrene plastic whenever possible. Of course, you could also just build the Tamiya kit as is to represent an early IAF F-4E from either the war of attrition or the Yom Kippur war, since those are the engagements where the Rhino earned its reputation in the middle east. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recon Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I am using the Cutting Edge conversions to do mine. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I seem to remember that the CAM conversion that I got only had 2 of the 3 slat actuator fairings that go under the inner wings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loftycomfort Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Guys, thanks for the help. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Least expensive and easiest: Revell F-4E with AMS Resin nose Better-looking (IMHO) and a little more difficult: Tamiya F-4E with Revell slat parts added to Tamiya wings, Revell afterburner nozzles combined with Tamiya's (Revell's are correct size, Tamiya's are too small), and Revell F-15-style centerline drop tank (if required) Like Dave says, CAM's slats are missing one of the actuators. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deadmeat Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I was kind of interested in this too. I have the Revell F-4E with nose correction, but try as I might I can't find any decals for it. Is ANYONE doing IDF F-4E decals these days? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loftycomfort Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 I was kind of interested in this too. I have the Revell F-4E with nose correction, but try as I might I can't find any decals for it. Is ANYONE doing IDF F-4E decals these days? http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SD32009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deadmeat Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SD32009 Grrrr.....out of stock....looks like a nice option though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Weasel V Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Grrrr.....out of stock....looks like a nice option though. Hannants is currently closed as they're having a complete revamp of the website and premises - so everything is 'out of stock' at the moment. Give it a couple of days to sort everything out and I'm sure they magically re-appear :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recon Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I tried ordering that set and was told that they were out of stock and that I should try reordering at a later date. I got a set of the CE Israeli F4's and I will be starting my RF4E and my F4E shortly. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazychinaman Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 How Do you Guys Make A Refueling Probe.?For The Isrealis F-4's.Is There A Resin Kit.? I Have Three Revell F-4's Three Rf-4C And Decls.Waiting To Be Done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 CE was the only one that I know of who made the external refuel probe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Another thing we need to know is what time frame do you want to depict your F-4, If you decide to do an early one you wont have to stress the slatted wing, and refuelling probe. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loftycomfort Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Another thing we need to know is what time frame do you want to depict your F-4, If you decide to do an early one you wont have to stress the slatted wing, and refuelling probe.Curt So I can just use a Tamiya F-4E, out of box, and call it accurate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Leduc Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 I was kind of interested in this too. I have the Revell F-4E with nose correction, but try as I might I can't find any decals for it. Is ANYONE doing IDF F-4E decals these days? Hey Deadmeat, Try those guy's, got my set from them end the quality from Sky's Decals are impressive and full Hebrew stencil too.. http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=SD-32009 Dan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deadmeat Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Hey Deadmeat,Try those guy's, got my set from them end the quality from Sky's Decals are impressive and full Hebrew stencil too.. http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=SD-32009 Dan. Man but that would be cool. If I recall though, this set is for the Kurnass 2000 conversion of the F-4E. Any thoughts on how hard it would be to scratch build the refueling probe? Do you know if any of the marking schemes allow for a Kurnass without the probe??? Edited March 24, 2010 by deadmeat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Man but that would be cool. If I recall though, this set is for the Kurnass 2000 conversion of the F-4E. Any thoughts on how hard it would be to scratch build the refueling probe? Do you know if any of the marking schemes allow for a Kurnass without the probe??? It isn't really. It includes markings for the Kurnass 2000 prototype, but the numbers, insignia, and stencils can be used for any number of IAF F-4Es Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deadmeat Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 It isn't really. It includes markings for the Kurnass 2000 prototype, but the numbers, insignia, and stencils can be used for any number of IAF F-4Es Sweet! I think I could scratch build the probe but it would be mucho easier to do just a straight F-4E with the Revell boxing (it has the correct slatted wings, etc). Looks like this set is what I'm looking for. THANKS! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Leduc Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 You might want to use this little part also to help you out for refuelling probe ..... http://www.hobbydecal.com/detail.cgi?number=mt32010v1 Very realistic, did used one on my 1/32 Trumpy F-105D. You should show some picture ounces it's done, not going to start mine, have other project for my Revell's Dan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 So I can just use a Tamiya F-4E, out of box, and call it accurate? Sure can, Israel started receiving F-4's in 1969, the slat wing mod did not start till 1971-2 and was completed in 1978, the IDF/AF received over 100+ a/c with hard wings. The War of Attrition was fought with Hard wing F-4's. So anything depicted from that War/ Era should be a "Hard-wing" A/C. I've found a picture of the refuelling probe on an A/C dated 1973, but I have also found A/C without it in 1980's, so it seems it dose not have to be a must have, unless your research of your particular airframe has it. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 The Airdoc and Isradecal books have plenty of photos of IAF Phantoms for modeling particular aircraft at a particular time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iaf-man Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Hey Deadmeat,Try those guy's, got my set from them end the quality from Sky's Decals are impressive and full Hebrew stencil too.. http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=SD-32009 Dan. The only problem I see with the sheet-the Orange Tail sqn. badge is misprinted.The middle black line is printed too low,so it merges with the lower. Otherwise-fine sheet. Isaac Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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