parkes682decals Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Hi All I am pleased to announce a white inkjet printer ink from Parkes682Decals here's the photos.These are printed on to clear decal using white made for a certain model Epson Inkjet Printer have a look at the results Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sam_2000 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 hmm..this is interesting. It would make decal printing SOO much easier. I can't seem to find any info on their site. Is this available now?? Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Can it be overlayed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Most interesting! Is it opaque enough for a black background? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeaton01 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Most interesting! Is it opaque enough for a black background? Where do I get it? Is it available in the US, and which Epson model? Thanks, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garthk Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Can it be overlayed? If it's inkjet, my guess would be probably not. Inkjets are pretty much single-pass printers. ALPS printers have a function where they lock in the paper position for running the paper back and forth to allow overlay. It looks like the white is a bit more opaque than a single run of Alps white. However it's on a mid-blue background. Would probably be ok on a slightly lighter background, but would require manual overlay (multiple white decals overlayed by hand in application to the model) for anything darker. Probably do well for three overlayed decals (two white topped by the color one). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 hmm..this is interesting. It would make decal printing SOO much easier. I can't seem to find any info on their site. Is this available now?? Sean Hi Sean This is an experimental ink that myself and an ink company have been working on for about a year.It will be only be used on a certain Epson Printer,you will need a Brand New one and brand new empty cartridges and the the new ink.I have test quantity to try,i have had to pay for it.Its not cheap But as you can see it works possibly the worlds first White Inkjet Printer that can print on to clear decal. Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Can it be overlayed? Hi Mark the answer is yes up to 3 layers eg white red blue Hope this answers your question Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Most interesting! Is it opaque enough for a black background? Hi there the answer is yes it is dense enough to be used on black Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Where do I get it? Is it available in the US, and which Epson model?Thanks, John Hi John The company is currently pantienting the ink for legal reasons i cannot say who and the ink type. Also the epson printer is envolved in the legal process All im allowed to tell you its not a solvent ink,and it has made for a certain Epson printer due to the printer head and it cannot be used on any other printer.But at least we have a new way of printing white ink other than Alps Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Where do I get it? Is it available in the US, and which Epson model?Thanks, John Hi John You cannot it yet,its British Invention and i have a small stock of the ink and expensive as i have had to pay for it Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pookie Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Very good news. So in a year or two, that should be widely available for several printer brands and at a reasonable price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 I've often thought about just using my Alps for white then laying a more precise/colorful inkjet decal over the top. This would be basically the same result for folks with that model Epson printer. Problem is I always have trouble with the inkjet quality... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 I've often thought about just using my Alps for white then laying a more precise/colorful inkjet decal over the top. This would be basically the same result for folks with that model Epson printer. Problem is I always have trouble with the inkjet quality... Hi Mark The quality of the white is superb,and dense you cannot see throught it.The only probelm i see is it being cost effective for us modellers.I worked out a cartridge full 20ml works out to £25.00 GBP each but you can do a lot with 20ml.Im hearing they are only going to sell it in 500ml bottles. Will keep informed of any developments on this side of the pond Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedHeadKevin Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) So I'm assuming that this would be used as a replacement for one of the color cartridges. If you replaced the black cartridge with white ink, you'd have to invert the colors on your artwork before you printed, so the computer would think it's printing black, but it's printing white. This could also mess up doing colored decals, though. if a color needs to be mixed using black as one of the CMYK colors, and it gets white instead, you'd get some pretty funky colors. Awesome product though. It'll be really cool to print white drawings onto colored paper. Edited March 10, 2010 by RedHeadKevin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexR Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Hi AllI am pleased to announce a white inkjet printer ink from Parkes682Decals here's the photos.These are printed on to clear decal using white made for a certain model Epson Inkjet Printer have a look at the results Hi, This topic is extremely interesting, because of the new technology itself, and because the Epson could be a much more reliable substitute to Alps printers which are pretty slow and which are far from exellence in terms of printing. If the new technology will let modelers print photo-realistic images, and also will have a white color - this would be a REAL progress. What is the DPI characteristic of this printer? Whould it be precise enough to pirint, for instance, stencilling in 72 scale? Will it be designed as CMYK+W, i.e. will use 5 cartriges in a row? Or it can be a standard model (one from Epson row), in which one of the cartiges can be replaced? Best regards, Alex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acad Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 is it the same to your product?? http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Pro...UseBVCookie=yes http://www.bluelinemedia.com.au/news-archi...-hdr-white-ink/ Although it is quite Hi-end at this moment, a home/office printer is possible in the near future ~~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yuri Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 is it the same to your product??http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Pro...UseBVCookie=yes http://www.bluelinemedia.com.au/news-archi...-hdr-white-ink/ Although it is quite Hi-end at this moment, a home/office printer is possible in the near future ~~ Cool printer... a tad too expensive however... (and 11 cartridges!!!!). Anyway, answering RedHeadKevin, I would use a different approach to avoid mess up things... When using an inkjet decal over a dark painted model, you don't need only to print white on the areas that must be white... you need first of all to print a white background on all the artwork. So it would be simpler to have 2 decals: one with the whole area on the markings printed white, and then another decal printed in color to slide over the white decal, just as it happens on many aftermaket decals.... I don't know if I explained it well... but using for example a classic "star & bars" american insigna, you'd need to print first all a white area that's the size of the whole marking (and if you place the white ink instead of the black cartridge it must be an all-black image, so blue, red and white areas all must be changed to black on the file image), then print another decal with just the blue and red parts (in this case with all the standard cartridges fitted). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I think for the foreseeable future I'll be sticking with the Alps solution. I can stock up on white if all else fails and overlay inkjet decals. But for the Alps impaired, this looks really interesting. You'll still have to print the white and color layers separately, which means finding a super thin inkjet compatible decal film is a must. And, when my Alps either dies, runs out if ink, or no longer has a parallel port to connect to, this is an option for sure. Which brings me to my next thought--are inkjet compatible papers still more costly than Alps or laser papers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 Hi All Firstly,this ink is not made by Epson Secondly,its made for A4 Epson printers not graphic printers. It has just 4 cartridges in it Most of these are solvent based,and some are water based.This one runs through Epsons ok no probelm. The WT7900 is a graphic printer and costs about £7,000 GBP,this one costs about £100 GBP and is a A4 size printer Hope this helps Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pinhead Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Is there a problem with the paint being organic for long termprojects ? Since it is made for proofing does it have a life span ? ie will it break down over time ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 12, 2010 Author Share Posted March 12, 2010 Is there a problem with the paint being organic for long termprojects ? Since it is made for proofing does it have a life span ? ie will it break down over time ? Hi Pinhead The ink has a two year shelf life,I have just been trying to see how small the lettering will go and is still readable looks like .5 mm (half a millimetre) in size.Its the same as colour printing i can take that down to that size. Its not a paint,or organic its a ink thats been specially made to go through a selective series of Epson printers due to there heads.The ink that Epson are running through there WT7900 series is totally different ink to this one this is denser.It prints in one pass. Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
William G Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Paul What model printer are you using I see you comment that it is one of the A4 compatible printers (A4 is the print head type) Curious as to what slot it take in the ink bay. Most of these I have seen use upwards of 8 inks William G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkes682decals Posted March 14, 2010 Author Share Posted March 14, 2010 PaulWhat model printer are you using I see you comment that it is one of the A4 compatible printers (A4 is the print head type) Curious as to what slot it take in the ink bay. Most of these I have seen use upwards of 8 inks William G Hi William For leagal reasons the ink has to registed and paintented so i cannot tell you. It uses 4 inks, only 4 bays A4 is the size of paper Hope this helps Paul Parkes682Decals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
William G Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Hi WilliamFor leagal reasons the ink has to registed and paintented so i cannot tell you. It uses 4 inks, only 4 bays A4 is the size of paper Hope this helps Paul Parkes682Decals Thanks Paul From the 4 inks that would mean possibly CMYK for the tanks. I think that would make it a fit in the black ink then... Sets the printer to print white as black... use black and white mode I am guessing. Pretty cool... May have to see about a 4th printer for the shop here then William G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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