Helidriver Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 amazing what you find when you are bored and do a google of your own last name.... Mine is Rian...looks like I have my own website in Russia.... http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20100219/157939986.html Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caudleryan Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hmmmm, their specs are almost matched. I wonder who copied who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g0_command0 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Hmmmm, their specs are almost matched. I wonder who copied who? Didnt you know that a F-22 was forced to land in russia and wasnt returned till 3 months later and in pieces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Didnt you know that a F-22 was forced to land in russia and wasnt returned till 3 months later and in pieces. really? I thought the Russians stole a F-22 like the US did with the FireFox? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g0_command0 Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Actually didnt the lockheed martin worker drop the blue prints on the floor at a bar? Then some guy found it and sold it to Russia for 500 dollars. Theres a video on youtube somewhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caudleryan Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Didnt you know that a F-22 was forced to land in russia and wasnt returned till 3 months later and in pieces. Didn't they do that with the space shuttle, too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 All nations spy on each other and are stealing industrial and technology info or trying too. This is nothing new. But in the end the only thing that matters will be how good the production aircraft will be compared to an F-22. I'm sure it will also be a stellar performer though. If they offer export variants and at the lower prices as noted in the link, well it could mean the USA having to open at a competitive price export variants of F-22 as well... Meh who knows. My country Canada is going to get the F-35 anyways. Too damn few of em but that is the horse we are going to ride. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Didn't they do that with the space shuttle, too? Yes, that time they had great trouble copying the fur on the seats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caudleryan Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne S Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 All nations spy on each other and are stealing industrial and technology info or trying too. This is nothing new. But in the end the only thing that matters will be how good the production aircraft will be compared to an F-22. I'm sure it will also be a stellar performer though. If they offer export variants and at the lower prices as noted in the link, well it could mean the USA having to open at a competitive price export variants of F-22 as well... Meh who knows. My country Canada is going to get the F-35 anyways. Too damn few of em but that is the horse we are going to ride. Les is this actually true or just your thoughts? I thought Canada as invested into the program for jobs, not necessarily to buy F-35s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twhite80 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Hmmmm. Call me skeptical but I would like to know more about how the T-50 matches up with the F-22. There are more important comparisons that can be made such as radar capability and radar cross section. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rapier01 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Les is this actually true or just your thoughts? I thought Canada as invested into the program for jobs, not necessarily to buy F-35s. It hadn't been formally selected last time I checked in with my guy at their DND (their version of our DOD), but it's practically a sure thing. Oddly enough, they're considering the F-35B STOVL version as well as the CTOL- which is just plain weird. My dude doesn't know why- just that they were looking at it- but that was all back in December. well it could mean the USA having to open at a competitive price export variants of F-22 as well... Keep dreaming. There isn't a chance in hell of that ever happening. The Raptor production is done after Lot 9 and bringing a production line from the dead is more challenging and more expensive then you seem to realize. Further, the jet is still prohibited for export. PS> My Jedi powers tell me that this thread will turn ugly- not a question of if, just when... Edited April 28, 2010 by Rapier01 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Actually didnt the lockheed martin worker drop the blue prints on the floor at a bar? Then some guy found it and sold it to Russia for 500 dollars. Theres a video on youtube somewhere Wanna buy an Apple ? Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 PS> My Jedi powers tell me that this thread will turn ugly- not a question of if, just when... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingSnowmew Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I think it just turned ugly... very ugly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kei Lau Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Hmmmm. Call me skeptical but I would like to know more about how the T-50 matches up with the F-22. There are more important comparisons that can be made such as radar capability and radar cross section. It is not easy to compare an production aircraft F-22 with one whose engine is yet to be developed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Les is this actually true or just your thoughts? I thought Canada as invested into the program for jobs, not necessarily to buy F-35s. Just to back up what has been said in the thread here. I've read that Canada has an initial plan given the plane develops as required to purchase 65 air frames. I'd expect some industrial spin offs on buying into the F-35 would come to Canada as well. If we stop at 65, it's really bare bones numbers. Australia which is half our pop and GDP plans to buy 100. It also is buying F-18E/F Super Hornets. The Dutch even are buying more than us. Edited April 28, 2010 by Les / Creative Edge Photo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 The PAK FA looks more like the YF-23 than the F-22, except from plan view which is quite "a copy". Also, it's seems small compared to Raptor. I don't see where all this fuel for the supposed range will fit, never mind the engine performance of a type not yet in production... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I´d say that might more look like target specs and that there´s prolly an engine designer sweating bullets somewhere............ :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnopfor Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 There is much fail in this thread.It is now super ugly fugly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattC Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 This explains it all rather well; Clicky Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticWeapons Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 This explains it all rather well;Clicky Matt Oh wow! There's more than just pancakes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F106A Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 So, uh, .... With all this ugliness, is anyone planning on making a kit of this new Russian fighter? And no, I don't mean the "girls." (Ughhh!!!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 So, uh, ....With all this ugliness, is anyone planning on making a kit of this new Russian fighter? And no, I don't mean the "girls." (Ughhh!!!) I have scratchbuilt one..... The In Progress build thread is here A Russian enterprise is planning a resin kit (due end May)..... And the Russian kit manufacturer Zvezda is rumoured to be planning an injection-moulded kit. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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