g0_command0 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2010/05/...pe-spotted.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) IT's so cool! this plane is close to Su-33... so this mean that trumpeter will release the j-15... someday! (and with little work, get a good su-33! ...or a little luck!) with hook down Edited May 23, 2010 by mingwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 They already have bought Su-33 prototype from Ukraine... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 IT's so cool! this plane is close to Su-33...so this mean that trumpeter will release the j-15... someday! (and with little work, get a good su-33! ...or a little luck!) with hook down That pic is two months old now, and i reaaaly doubt it is real. Looks like a pixlated ps/cad pic. They already have bought Su-33 prototype from Ukraine... Is it true or just rumor? I remember that ukraine had atleast two early flanker prototypes. One of them was really early (before T-10 went changes in design) while the other was Su-33 which i have a pic of somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) Is it true or just rumor? I remember that ukraine had atleast two early flanker prototypes. One of them was really early (before T-10 went changes in design) while the other was Su-33 which i have a pic of somewhere. Yes, I read on spotters net ua that they sold one to China! i will try to find picture with explanation! edit: http://spotters.net.ua/file/?id=2831 Edited May 23, 2010 by mario krijan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Is it true or just rumor? I remember that ukraine had atleast two early flanker prototypes. One of them was really early (before T-10 went changes in design) while the other was Su-33 which i have a pic of somewhere. The T-10-10 prototype is at Lugansk, Ukraine. I photographed it there in 2006...... Dunno about the Su-33 though........ Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 That pic is two months old now, and i reaaaly doubt it is real. Looks like a pixlated ps/cad pic. Is it true or just rumor? I remember that ukraine had atleast two early flanker prototypes. One of them was really early (before T-10 went changes in design) while the other was Su-33 which i have a pic of somewhere. sorry for my 2 month old pic... i wasnt aware of the whole story before this topic started... wasnt even aware the china had/have plans for aircraft carrier neither... i just click the link at the top of this topic, and i found that cool. as russian plan to change their old su-33 for new mig-29kub... china developped a new su-33!(j-15) maybe the pics are PS/cad.... but the rumours are strong about that plane...(being some kind of sea flanker variant) does china really need to buy a su-33 to learn how to navalized theirs j-11's? ??? but the coolest thing was more about the Trumpeter possibility... (with some bad humour about the fact that if they do their j-15 as trumpusual, we should get a very nice su-33 soon! ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 This Su-33 at MAKS 07 was getting a lot of interest from a Chinese delegation.... Make of that what you will..... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 ...Is it true or just rumor? I remember that ukraine had atleast two early flanker prototypes. One of them was really early (before T-10 went changes in design) while the other was Su-33 which i have a pic of somewhere. Hmmm ... with this picture, I think no-one can claim now that the J-15 or at least Chana's carrier-capable Flanker-developments are FAKE... any legal aspects aside ! However I heard the prototype China received was T-10K-3 ... or does anyone have better ifo ? Besides that there are also some J-11B going to the PLA-NAF as J-11BH and at least IMO there's one twin seater includes (maybe a J-11BSH) ... what do You think Ken ?? Cheers, Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Yes, I read on spotters net ua that they sold one to China! i will try to find picture with explanation!edit: http://spotters.net.ua/file/?id=2831 Ken Yup, was thinking about those two! sorry for my 2 month old pic...i wasnt aware of the whole story before this topic started... wasnt even aware the china had/have plans for aircraft carrier neither... i just click the link at the top of this topic, and i found that cool. as russian plan to change their old su-33 for new mig-29kub... china developped a new su-33!(j-15) maybe the pics are PS/cad.... but the rumours are strong about that plane...(being some kind of sea flanker variant) No need to apologize. ^_^ They are definitely developing J-15 (carrier fighter) no doubt. I just doubt that particular picture is actually real. Other pics posted by g0 are real for sure. does china really need to buy a su-33 to learn how to navalized theirs j-11's? ??? Well, under the skin, Su-33 and Su-27 are very very different planes. So i guess to speed up the process of building own "Su-33" it is nice to look at a real Su-33... ;) And regarding the carrier, they have built a "on land" carrier as a simulator. Rather large one. They have also built a ramp on a runway ala we have seen on NITKA complex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acad Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Just saw this J-15 photo in chinese forum.... Is it photoshoped ???? from ... http://bbs.tiexue.net/post_4194387_1.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Just saw this J-15 photo in chinese forum.... Is it photoshoped ???? from ... http://bbs.tiexue.net/post_4194387_1.html Pic doesnt show up, and i dont see anything in the link either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acad Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Pic doesnt show up, and i dont see anything in the link either. oh ..... dear ....... I upload it again ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Very old, very fake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
acad Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Very old, very fake. OMG .... Thanks your information ~~ :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 (edited) Just that minute ... Hmmm .. I'm no longer sure if this is the J-15 ... looks identical to this MKI !! see post 39: http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/inde...n.html#msg94396 Deino Edited May 25, 2010 by Deino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Interesting pics posted Denio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
designfriemel Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I know everybody is excited about the J-20, now, but I've found this pic of the J-15, here: there is also a vid on tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trYUWQvKees...player_embedded and about those 2 prototypes from ukraine - it is confirmed here that one (T-10K-3) has been sold to china around 2001. http://cnair.top81.cn/J-10_J-11_FC-1.htm any news, new threads about this ? rg mart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
designfriemel Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 oups, forgot about this one: I doubt this is a photograph - proving me wrong is welcomed! I rather suggest it is a rendering - if, a pretty good one actually. what's interesting about it is what it shows: differences to it's russian example su-33 cheers! mart Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Vairy eeeeeenteresteeng..... Thanks for posting Mart..... I wonder why they changed the wingtip launch rails ??? and.... did they increase the wing area - like the Su-33 - difficult to see from that photo with the flaps down. It'll be interesting to watch development of the J-15...... Ken PS - the carrier is ready....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davetur Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 I wonder why they changed the wingtip launch rails ??? Maybe to have enough clearance for the wider tail surfaces of the PL-8 missile. ;) Davide Quote Link to post Share on other sites
designfriemel Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Vairy eeeeeenteresteeng.....Thanks for posting Mart..... I wonder why they changed the wingtip launch rails ??? and.... did they increase the wing area - like the Su-33 - difficult to see from that photo with the flaps down. It'll be interesting to watch development of the J-15...... Ken PS - the carrier is ready....... ^_^ you're welcome, ken! at least one finds this interesting. taking the content of my second link for granted it is the same airframe as su-33, yes. This raises a serious issue i think, because china does not seem to have a production license for this aircraft. But taking the long lasting partnership into account I am sure that they will come to an agreement with both parties ending up satisfied.... about those wingtip launch rails: 2 reasons that could explain the difference - first: chinese missile options, rather than russian missile - second: no Gardeniya ECM pod option, at least not like the original su-33 configuration. It will be interesting to see if they will also purchase the P-800 oniks replacing moskit missiles. Ken, do you know if this image shows a (compatible) su-33 pylon/hardpoint holding the P-800 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Ken, do you know if this image shows a (compatible) su-33 pylon/hardpoint holding the P-800 ? I don't see why not - BrahMos is a development of Onyx....... ..... and that is slated for carriage by the IAF Su-30MKI..... So I don't see why it can't be carried on the centreline pylon of an upgraded Su-33... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
designfriemel Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 yes, yes.. that is what i thought, but haven't seen so far, thx, ken! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aggressor Supporter Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 oups, forgot about this one: I doubt this is a photograph - proving me wrong is welcomed! I rather suggest it is a rendering - if, a pretty good one actually. what's interesting about it is what it shows: differences to it's russian example su-33 cheers! mart I do not know if that is real or not, but looks real enough and a great looking pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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