Ken Cartwright Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I'm not sure this qualifies as news, exactly, given the source, but I thought I'd post this just for conversation's sake: It flies, and it snoops: Norway’s pricey F-35s caught sending ‘sensitive data’ to UShttps://www.rt.com/news/410923-norway-f35-sensitive-data-us/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 52 minutes ago, Ken Cartwright said: I'm not sure this qualifies as news, exactly, given the source, but I thought I'd post this just for conversation's sake: It flies, and it snoops: Norway’s pricey F-35s caught sending ‘sensitive data’ to UShttps://www.rt.com/news/410923-norway-f35-sensitive-data-us/ RT. This thing doesn't work Also RT: this works too well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Cartwright Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 RT, whose motto is, "If it didn't contain Russian propaganda against the West, you probably didn't read it on RT." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, Ken Cartwright said: RT, whose motto is, "If it didn't contain Russian propaganda against the West, you probably didn't read it on RT." I thought that was something similar to Facebook’s motto? It it should be noted that on occasion, RT does have some interesting and non-biased articles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Ken Cartwright said: It flies, and it snoops: Norway’s pricey F-35s caught sending ‘sensitive data’ to UShttps://www.rt.com/news/410923-norway-f35-sensitive-data-us/ Can’t tell from the article but this probably has to do with the F-35 automated logistics system rather than “sensitive data”... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Ken Cartwright said: RT, whose motto is, "If it didn't contain Russian propaganda against the West, you probably didn't read it on RT." RT is owned and operated by the Russian Government...so it's no surprise. I can't stand the B.S. that is on it, but there are several media outlets here in the states I cannot watch or bother to read. RT is full of anti-Semitic comments in the forums so I'm sure there are plenty of different nationality of a$$ clown who post and believe that drivel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I must be dyslexic. I initially assumed rt.com was the product of Tyler Rogoway....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan_Lotton Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 "Don't buy the F-35 it'll send sensitive data to the US!" "Buy the MiG-35/Su-35 instead where you will be completely dependent on us to rebuild your engines and all technology" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris L Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 LOL ! And probably worse . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 “The Su-57 is not expected to enter into serial production until upgraded engines are ready, which is unlikely to happen until 2027,” Center for Naval Analyses senior research scientist Dmitry Gorenburg wrote in a new PONARS Policy Memo. “Over the next eight years, Russia will continue to purchase small numbers of these planes for testing.” If Norway can wait, just another 10 years... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 11:21 PM, TaiidanTomcat said: RT. This thing doesn't work Also RT: this works too well I'm not sure RT is entirely to blame in this case. Their article is just a combination of this Norwegian article: https://www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/norge/2017/11/21/195349469/f-35-utfordrer-nasjonal-suverenitet which in turn is related to this Flight Global article: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=no&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-foreign-f-35-partners-work-up-interim-soluti-443146/&usg=ALkJrhiMKlEVEKg4L-ny1qU1wgVjUVsQ7Q Of course RT did put their own spin to it, but the basic content were not made up by them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Those articles confirm it is related to ALIS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 47 minutes ago, habu2 said: Those articles confirm it is related to ALIS I thought that wasn't working? The narratives just keep clashing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Apparently the ET Phone Home part is working..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Soooo... Our friends to the north have scrapped the Super Hornet purchase and are instead opting for a fleet of "gently used" Aussie A models. Nice! I'm sure every fast jet pilot they have is now thinking about reenlisting so they can get a chance to fly these bad boys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 11bee said: Soooo... Our friends to the north have scrapped the Super Hornet purchase and are instead opting for a fleet of "gently used" Aussie A models. Nice! I'm sure every fast jet pilot they have is now thinking about reenlisting so they can get a chance to fly these bad boys. They're going to have to wait a while. In one of those lead a horse to water moments, Canada won't get Aussie bugs until after they're replaced by.... replaced by... replaced by which aircraft again? :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 No worries, its all being taken care of in a timely and expeditious manner with little to no cost to the Canadian tax payer: "The Royal Canadian Air Force expects to release a new [...yet another...] request for proposals for its fifth-generation fighter competition by 2019 with a contract award by 2021, the RCAF’s commander says this week." https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-canada-expects-fifth-generation-fighter-cont-443137/ So Canada should be receiving its "new" old Hornets by around 2021 so its all good... And it seems as though Airbus [oddly enough] is looking into potentially getting in on the action with the Eurofighter: http://business.financialpost.com/transportation/airlines/airbus-open-to-further-bombardier-cooperation-as-it-eyes-canadian-fighter-jet-deal Fun times! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 In other words, AFTER the next general election so Fancy socks selfie lad can blame the next mean government for buying death planes that the sunny way types would never do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 F-35I Adir, Officially operational in Israel as of December 5th, 2017. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Well, that is good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 http://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=26042&sid=754b89d4631997ad2c85d12d3c6c02d2 PDF on VMFA-211 (WARNING: PDF is a PDF) More Canada of course: Quote F-35: 1, Super Hornet: 0 In Boeing’s Rift With Canada06 Dec 2017 Lara Seligman"Lockheed Martin’s F-35 appears to have emerged the real winner from Boeing’s rift with Canada over Bombardier’s C Series passenger jetliner. Canada’s liberal government has reportedly decided to scrap its planned $5.2 billion purchase of new F/A-18 E/F Super Hornets as an interim step to replacing its aging fleet of older-model Hornets. Instead, the Royal Canadian Air Force would buy earlier-generation Hornets from Australia as a short-term solution.......Losing the Canadian order would undeniably be a blow for Boeing’s fighter business. The company stands to lose not just the 18 new Super Hornets Ottawa planned to buy initially, but the chance to capture all 65 new fighters the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) needs to recapitalize its fighter force.Even worse, the dispute could drive the RCAF straight into competitor Lockheed Martin’s lap.For a relatively small air force like Canada’s, it makes little sense to operate two types of aircraft, virtually guaranteeing the first 18 Super Hornets would have been followed by 47 more, argues Richard Aboulafia, an analyst with the Teal Group. “Having a unique, 18-aircraft squadron just doesn’t make a lot of economic or military sense,” Aboulafia says. “Most likely they would’ve said, ‘Hey, we would save billions if we simply buy 47 more—that takes care of our fighter requirement for the next three decades.’”Buying the Australian aircraft, which are almost identical in terms of age and capability to Canada’s current fleet, is at most a five-year Band-Aid for the aging fighter force, Aboulafia says.If Canada scraps the Super Hornet deal and pursues a competition for a next-generation fighter in the next five years, Lockheed’s F-35 will almost inevitably emerge victorious, analysts agree.The Boeing-Bombardier dispute gives Canada’s liberal new Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who campaigned on dropping plans to buy the expensive and politically controversial F-35, an excuse to go running back to Lockheed.“The RCAF ultimately wanted [F-35s]. Industry wanted them too. But Trudeau had campaigned on basically a Super Hornet platform and Boeing could’ve easily held him to it … until they gave him the perfect out,” Aboulafia says...." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkW Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 8:44 PM, phantom said: In other words, AFTER the next general election so Fancy socks selfie lad can blame the next mean government for buying death planes that the sunny way types would never do. This is just ugly, ugly jealousy. Canada may be the only NATO ally without a viable Air Force, but they are going to look damn good doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 50 minutes ago, MarkW said: This is just ugly, ugly jealousy. Canada may be the only NATO ally without a viable Air Force, but they are going to look damn good doing it. Damn Good? Damn good?! You mean FABULOUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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TaiidanTomcat Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, MarkW said: There you go! Canada will be entering into "consultations" about the CF-18 replacement now. These should not be confused with evaluations, and re-evaluations and audits and assessments of the last 10 years. I'm beginning to understand why Mr Selfie Socks is so proud of himself-- picking socks is a huge event and takes a lot of decisiveness and a massive amount of mental cognition. The sheer ability to make a choice at all on anything without years of evaluating should be applauded. Way to go, Canada! Heres hoping in the next 2 years you will have a framework to make a decision by 2021! only 9 years after hitting the "reset button" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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