11bee Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Mr Matt Foley said: Now, as far as Nukes in Turkey.............they are not there. Edited June 11, 2019 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris L Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, 11bee said: Sincerely hoping someone got wise long ago and moved them....... We never had any in Germany either ( HA HA ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 9 hours ago, Chris L said: Sincerely hoping someone got wise long ago and moved them....... We never had any in Germany either ( HA HA ) Or in the UK, or the Netherlands.....Korea....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hajo L. Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 A quick google search brought only one hit that supports the move of weapons out of turkey: https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/us-moves-nuclear-weapons-from-turkey-to-romania/ All other articles just described the potential problem that could come with US nukes still in turkey. HAJO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, Hajo L. said: A quick google search brought only one hit that supports the move of weapons out of turkey: https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/us-moves-nuclear-weapons-from-turkey-to-romania/ All other articles just described the potential problem that could come with US nukes still in turkey. HAJO Interesting... I'd be very surprised if these weapons were moved to Romania. I think the US still has operational storage facilities in the UK, Germany and possibly the Netherlands. Not sure what Romania would offer unless the other nations above balked at having these nukes brought in. In that case, why not just bring them back to the US? If these weapon's can't be removed (and I assume that Turkey would be watching them closely and would act if they saw them being transported out of country), hopefully as a last resort if things really go south, the US has the ability to at least remove / disable the weapon's arming mechanism and somehow render them inert. Doesn't take a Masters Degree in International Relations to see where the US / Turkey relationship has been going for the last few years. Gotta believe that the US has taken some actions to protect these weapons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, pacheco said: Any information about the serial number ? http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-35/airframe-profile/8963/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IrishGreek Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 This link also has a picture or two of the actual aircraft. Aviationist article on crash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 F-35 in Switzerland. Gripen E officially removed from competition Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shawn C. Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the cool vid, TT! A) Nice job sticking that landing on a ~7000’ runway at altitude. 🙂 B) USAF markings are so boring these days that you can’t tell which squadron the aircraft is from without zooming in. Would it kill them to put a red tail flash on the 34th FS planes? Edited June 21, 2019 by Shawn C. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sapguy Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 some interesting F-35 news... https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/iranian-commander-kept-secret-israeli-f-35-stealth-fighters-had-violated-iran-airspace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) On 5/1/2019 at 1:39 PM, Ken Cartwright said: Interesting, and I never noticed that the outboard rails were canted like that before. Me neither, lol. Edited July 2, 2019 by foxmulder_ms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 4:23 PM, 11bee said: Surprisingly, the US seems to be playing hardball with Turkey over their decision to keep moving forward with purchasing the Russian S400 SAM system. The USAF has just grounded all Turkish pilots who were currently training on the F-35 at Luke, have ceased accepting any new Turkish maintenance / flight trainees into the program and have developed a roadmap to completely wind down Turkey's participation in the JSF program. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/politics/us-air-force-turkish-f-35-pilots/index.html I have a feeling Turkey will end up reacting to all this in a most negative fashion. Hope we finally decided to move all those nuclear weapons of ours out of Incirlik AFB... May not be a bad idea to remove all our personnel from Turkey while we are at it. Going to be real interesting to see how this all plays out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Taylor Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Yes, but the Stepper Across the DMZ now says that Turkey has been "treated very unfairly" over this whole S-400/F-35 thing (it was Obama's fault): http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/203992/in-u_turn%2C-trump-now-says-turkey-treated-unfairly-over-s_400-deal.html There's apparently a bit of a disconnect between the President and the "Deep State" (USAF, Department of Defense, etc.) on this issue. Cheers, Scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Scott Taylor said: Yes, but the Stepper Across the DMZ now says that Turkey has been "treated very unfairly" over this whole S-400/F-35 thing (it was Obama's fault): http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/203992/in-u_turn%2C-trump-now-says-turkey-treated-unfairly-over-s_400-deal.html There's apparently a bit of a disconnect between the President and the "Deep State" (USAF, Department of Defense, etc.) on this issue. Cheers, Scott The only consistency we have these days is inconsistency. I'm sure Turkey and their newfound allies will soon get their hands on this jet. On another note, the F-35 might be getting a new AAM in the future. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28636/meet-the-aim-260-the-air-force-and-navys-future-long-range-air-to-air-missile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan_Lotton Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 22 hours ago, Scott Taylor said: Yes, but the Stepper Across the DMZ now says that Turkey has been "treated very unfairly" over this whole S-400/F-35 thing (it was Obama's fault): http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/203992/in-u_turn%2C-trump-now-says-turkey-treated-unfairly-over-s_400-deal.html There's apparently a bit of a disconnect between the President and the "Deep State" (USAF, Department of Defense, etc.) on this issue. Cheers, Scott At least represent what he said was unfair, it wasn't the F-35 thing, it was related to being denied Patriot purchases years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Taylor Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jonathan_Lotton said: At least represent what he said was unfair, it wasn't the F-35 thing, it was related to being denied Patriot purchases years ago. What he is saying is that Turkey was treated unfairly about the Patriot vs. S-400, and is also, as I understand it, that messing around with them over the F-35 program is not great. That certainly seems to be an undercurrent in just about every story I read. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting this, but it doesn't appear to me that Trump's statement is reinforcing what I thought was the American position on the S-400 purchase and F-35 participation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan_Lotton Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Scott Taylor said: What he is saying is that Turkey was treated unfairly about the Patriot vs. S-400, and is also, as I understand it, that messing around with them over the F-35 program is not great. That certainly seems to be an undercurrent in just about every story I read. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting this, but it doesn't appear to me that Trump's statement is reinforcing what I thought was the American position on the S-400 purchase and F-35 participation. Quote He said that Turkey had been “treated very unfairly” in its efforts to buy Patriots Quote the US president acknowledged the concerns of the Pentagon that Nato F-35 jets “aren’t compatible” with Turkey buying the S-400 system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Maybe we can sell Turkey some of those brand new Sherman tanks instead..... 😎 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 18 hours ago, Jonathan_Lotton said: At least represent what he said was unfair, it wasn't the F-35 thing, it was related to being denied Patriot purchases years ago. Denied purchase??? Denied tech transfer. Two very different things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 21 hours ago, habu2 said: Maybe we can sell Turkey some of those brand new Sherman tanks instead..... 😎 Our Shermans are the greatest tanks. A really terrific, great tank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Hmmm: Turkey defies US as Russian S-400 missile defence arrives: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48962885 video: https://www.rt.com/news/463986-turkey-s400-parts-delivered/ Edited July 12, 2019 by foxmulder_ms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, foxmulder_ms said: Hmmm: Turkey defies US as Russian S-400 missile defence arrives: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48962885 video: https://www.rt.com/news/463986-turkey-s400-parts-delivered/ No F-35 for you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tony.t Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 12 July 2019 at 1:53 PM, foxmulder_ms said: Hmmm: Turkey defies US as Russian S-400 missile defence arrives: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48962885 video: https://www.rt.com/news/463986-turkey-s400-parts-delivered/ "Defies" ?! Naughty, naughty Turkey. T Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 US was bluffing (at least trump was). Seems like nothing will happen. I think F-35 sale will continue as is. lol... so much drama for nothing. https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/trump-turkey-s400-sales/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, foxmulder_ms said: US was bluffing (at least trump was). Seems like nothing will happen. I think F-35 sale will continue as is. lol... so much drama for nothing. https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/trump-turkey-s400-sales/index.html It's all a "Big nothingburger" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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