Vpanoptes Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 After looking at the "Vietnam War - US Aircraft" thread, it got me thinking. How many different models of attack/fighter aircraft (post-60's say) that were manufactured in the U.S. were NEVER (or only once) offered (or actually sold) for export sale? (Possibly related to nuclear capability in some?) I can think of a couple - feel free to correct any errors or add aircraft. NEVER Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk North American A-5 Vigilante Grumman A-6 Intruder Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II Republic F-105 Thunderchief ONCE F-111 (Australia for their nuke program) - Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 The F-14 Tomcat was only exported once, to Iran ... Attempts to be sold to other countries were made though ... Never: The F-22A Raptor Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 F-100, Turkey, France, Finland & Taiwan F-101, Canada, (Taiwan had the RF version) F-102, never F-105, never F-106, never B-45, never B-47, never B-52, never B-58, never B-1, never B-2, never Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alvis 3.1 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) Actually, I think Turkey used the 102, and the B-45 flew in RAF markings. Al P. Edited June 7, 2010 by Alvis 3.1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Actually, I think Turkey used the 102, As did Greece. and the B-45 flew in RAF markings. A number of RB-45C were indeed temporarily painted in Royal Air Force markings and crewed by British personel of No. 35 and No. 115 Squadron for a number of secret overflights of the Soviet Union out of RAF Sculthorpe. HTH, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gaz262 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 After looking at the "Vietnam War - US Aircraft" thread, it got me thinking. How many different models of attack/fighter aircraft (post-60's say) that were manufactured in the U.S. were NEVER (or only once) offered (or actually sold) for export sale? (Possibly related to nuclear capability in some?) I can think of a couple - feel free to correct any errors or add aircraft.NEVER Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk North American A-5 Vigilante Grumman A-6 Intruder Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II Republic F-105 Thunderchief ONCE F-111 (Australia for their nuke program) - Dan I believe the F-111 was offered to the UKs Labour governmant in the early 60s - hence the cancellation of the TSR2 program. The deal never materialised. Gaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I believe the F-111 was offered to the UKs Labour governmant in the early 60s - hence the cancellation of the TSR2 program. Yup - the proposed F-111K. Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
model_madness Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 The F-14 Tomcat was only exported once, to Iran ... Who the heck ordered that decision? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve N Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 B-47, never Never say "never" I suppose it doesn't really count. since it wasn't used in operational military service, but it's still in "foreign" markings. SN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afspret Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I think the Greeks also flew the F-102. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Both the F-17 & the F-20 were never exported . . . in fact, they were never ordered into production! VEs B) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 The RAF's F-111K was not proposed. It was bought and paid for, and the first several aircraft were nearly complete before the UK backed out of the deal. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbrundt Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 (edited) A couple 'pre-Vietnam': Vought F7U Vought F-11 Tiger F-89 Scorpion F-94 Starfire Sure, they're not fighter but some more to add to the list: A-3 Skywarrior B-66 Destroyer EB-66 Electronic Destroyer EA-6B Prowler B-2 Spirit B-1 Bone S-3 Viking Edited June 7, 2010 by jbrundt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazychinaman Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I Remember That The A-10 Was Offered But No Avail. Everybody Wanted Fighters At The Time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChernayaAkula Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 F-100, Turkey, France, Finland & Taiwan<...> F-100: wasn't Finland, but Denmark. ;) Who the heck ordered that decision? Ah, but that was when they where still in the good lads club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I remember reading somewhere that back in the 60's the F-105 was on the list for our air force along with some other things like the Mirage III. Eventually we bought the F-104. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Ah, but that was when they where still in the good lads club. And it helped the program remain affordable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I Remember That The A-10 Was Offered But No Avail. Everybody Wanted Fighters At The Time. The A-10 was certainly offered to Turkey in the early 1990s. In fact, the negotiations progressed to a point where the Turkish Air Force went to AMARC to choose the individual airframes. In their infinite wisdom, the Turkish team decided that the airframes offered had too much wear and their to be taken into service in a cost effective manner, and balked. They regretted their decision in mid 1990s, but by then the A-10 redeemed its value during the Gulf War and US was no longer interested in selling them. If you look at the "Operators" section of the A-10 feature issue of the WAPJ (World Air Power Journal), you will notice that it lists the Turkish Air Force as an A-10 operator: the negotations were almost complete at the time of the printing, and everyone thought it was a done deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caudleryan Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Didn't the French order and operate the F-105? I can't seem to remember. RYAN. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Roberts Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 I remember reading somewhere that back in the 60's the F-105 was on the list for our air force along with some other things like the Mirage III. Eventually we bought the F-104. Not enough room in the whole of the Netherlands to get a loaded F-105 airborne without clipping trees in western Germany! Also as a whiffer if one is so inclined, Iran was to get the first export F-16s until the fall of the Shah, IIRC those were then moved over to Israel's order and got them quicker - just in time for Osirik Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted June 7, 2010 Share Posted June 7, 2010 Yep on the F-16, I saw a pic of the demonstrator, they added the Iranian flag to it, but the fall and hostage situation occurred before the sales went through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pigsty Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Didn't the French order and operate the F-105? I can't seem to remember.RYAN. Nope. They had the F-100 but apart from that preferred to build their own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Also as a whiffer if one is so inclined, Iran was to get the first export F-16s until the fall of the Shah, You mean like this? ;-) Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scimitar Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 if i might butt in here; if i remember correctly, the raaf was offered a version of the a-5 vigilante, and around the same time, the luftwaffe (which might have resulted in other air forces following suit) was offered the latest version of the grumman f11f - they chose the the f-104 instead, especially with the license production agreements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silverback Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 I can't remember the A-6 Intruder ever being offered to any other country, and no other country would have even wanted those technological dead ends, the F3H Demon and F-1 (FJ3/FJ4) Fury. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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