Indra313 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 hello, i happened to walk across two stores and found two types of Mig-31 from Revell, one is #4349 and the other is #4378 is these two are different or the same? the lower number is cheaper... any infos would be greatly appreciated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huey Gunner Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 I believe the #4349 is the older late '80's Monogram release. Could be wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) hello, i happened to walk across two stores and found two types of Mig-31 from Revell, one is #4349 and the other is #4378 is these two are different or the same? the lower number is cheaper... any infos would be greatly appreciated Three numbers... new release Revell (Germany) 04378 is a Zvezda - good kit: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...amp;mode=linear http://www.super-hobby.cz/revell-4378-inte...p-1-490908.html instructions: http://www.revell.de/manual/04378.PDF Both Revell-USA 4349 and old release Revell-Germany (i forgot number) was the late '80's reboxes of a poor japanese TSUKUDA Hobby kit. Same kit is still sold under Kangnam brand: http://www.super-hobby.com/revell-4378-int...p-1-490908.html (and Chinese Kitech-Zhengdefu is very bad copy with raised panel lines) Edited June 30, 2010 by 172flogger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Indra313 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 thanks for the responses, so... from 172flogger, it means the older (4349) is not recommended? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) it means the older (4349) is not recommended? It is "15 feet away accurate": right number of wings, fins, engines and cockpits. There's a Zhengdefu built model here to help get an idea of the Tsukuda/ACE model. Edited July 1, 2010 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Indra313 Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 okay, thanks a lot for the infos i saw another one from ICM on the net, does any1 know if it's better or worse? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 okay, thanks a lot for the infos i saw another one from ICM on the net, does any1 know if it's better or worse? ICM didn't make one but two. The early one (blue box) is a Condor rebox, the late one (white box) is a brand new kit. Any of them is more accurate that the Tsukuda kit. The Condor kit has very shallow panel lines and fit is very bad (badly tuned slide molds). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Indra313 Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 :) then i'll take the #4378, but since everybody makes the Red-22 "Zakhar Sorokin" i'll make the blue (it seems blue number represents PVO defence/interceptor units, while reds are for FA tactical units) my previous kits are set that way: blue: Su-27, MiG-29, MiG-25, MiG-21; red: Su-25, Su-24M, Su-22, MiG-27, MiG-23 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 It is "15 feet away accurate": right number of wings, fins, engines and cockpits. There's a Zhengdefu built model here to help get an idea of the Tsukuda/ACE model. I found third number of this inaccurate kit, it was Revell 4377 - european edition of the Revell 4349: http://www.aukro.cz/show_item.php?item=1135787498 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutyCat Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 ICM didn't make one but two. The early one (blue box) is a Condor rebox, the late one (white box) is a brand new kit. Any of them is more accurate that the Tsukuda kit. The Condor kit has very shallow panel lines and fit is very bad (badly tuned slide molds). Here is my build up of, IIRC, is the blue boxing of the ICM kit. It looks okay built up, but was not easy to work with. http://www.dutycat.com/Mig31.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Indra313 Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 Just before i started building the blue-78, i found out that this Revell Mig-31B didn't have refueling probes. checked the other (particularly ICM) they have ones. and wing loadouts for Kaliningrad unit is likely 4 AA-8 instead of 2 AA-6 but the former missiles and racks plus the refueling probe are not included. I have ordered a set of Russian missiles, but the probe remains a headache, should i switch to ICM? then the revell one would be on sale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
172flogger Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 It is "15 feet away accurate": right number of wings, fins, engines and cockpits. There's a Zhengdefu built model here to help get an idea of the Tsukuda/ACE model. Run away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Run away Aw, c'mon - it is pure nostalgia. Didn't RoG had a corresponding and just as bad MiG-29 reboxed Tsukuda/ACE kit at the time..? Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peebeep Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Didn't RoG had a corresponding and just as bad MiG-29 reboxed Tsukuda/ACE kit at the time..? And a Flanker. IIRC Flankerman did an extensive accurisation article for Scale Models, much too challenging for me! I have both the Flanker and the Foxhound in the blue boxes illustrated above in the loft stash. peebeep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Aw, c'mon - it is pure nostalgia. Or a candidate kit for a what-if build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I remember their first SU-27 model...actually I think it was the first ever Flanker kit out there. I think it was entirely based on foggy pictures Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I think it was entirely based on foggy pictures :) It was a foggy kit ? one looked at the sprue and they were out of focus ? Heisenberg principle applied to plastic sprues... oh dear I'm weird again... :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Indra313 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Started building the ICM Foxhound, the 31B interceptor model, not the BM multirole. the Revell one is stored for spares, thank you for all the help, will show the result when it's completed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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