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hello, i happened to walk across two stores and found two types of Mig-31 from Revell, one is #4349 and the other is #4378 is these two are different or the same? the lower number is cheaper... any infos would be greatly appreciated

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hello, i happened to walk across two stores and found two types of Mig-31 from Revell, one is #4349 and the other is #4378 is these two are different or the same? the lower number is cheaper... any infos would be greatly appreciated

Three numbers...

new release Revell (Germany) 04378 is a Zvezda - good kit:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...amp;mode=linear

http://www.super-hobby.cz/revell-4378-inte...p-1-490908.html

instructions: http://www.revell.de/manual/04378.PDF

Both Revell-USA 4349 and old release Revell-Germany (i forgot number) was the late '80's reboxes of a poor japanese TSUKUDA Hobby kit.

Same kit is still sold under Kangnam brand: http://www.super-hobby.com/revell-4378-int...p-1-490908.html

(and Chinese Kitech-Zhengdefu is very bad copy with raised panel lines)

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it means the older (4349) is not recommended? :thumbsup:

It is "15 feet away accurate": right number of wings, fins, engines and cockpits. There's a Zhengdefu built model here to help get an idea of the Tsukuda/ACE model.

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okay, thanks a lot for the infos :thumbsup:

i saw another one from ICM on the net, does any1 know if it's better or worse?

ICM didn't make one but two. The early one (blue box) is a Condor rebox, the late one (white box) is a brand new kit. Any of them is more accurate that the Tsukuda kit. The Condor kit has very shallow panel lines and fit is very bad (badly tuned slide molds).

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:) then i'll take the #4378, but since everybody makes the Red-22 "Zakhar Sorokin" i'll make the blue (it seems blue number represents PVO defence/interceptor units, while reds are for FA tactical units)

my previous kits are set that way: blue: Su-27, MiG-29, MiG-25, MiG-21; red: Su-25, Su-24M, Su-22, MiG-27, MiG-23

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It is "15 feet away accurate": right number of wings, fins, engines and cockpits. There's a Zhengdefu built model here to help get an idea of the Tsukuda/ACE model.

I found third number of this inaccurate kit, it was Revell 4377 - european edition of the Revell 4349:

http://www.aukro.cz/show_item.php?item=1135787498

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ICM didn't make one but two. The early one (blue box) is a Condor rebox, the late one (white box) is a brand new kit. Any of them is more accurate that the Tsukuda kit. The Condor kit has very shallow panel lines and fit is very bad (badly tuned slide molds).

Here is my build up of, IIRC, is the blue boxing of the ICM kit. It looks okay built up, but was not easy to work with.

http://www.dutycat.com/Mig31.html

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  • 2 months later...

Just before i started building the blue-78, i found out that this Revell Mig-31B didn't have refueling probes. checked the other (particularly ICM) they have ones. and wing loadouts for Kaliningrad unit is likely 4 AA-8 instead of 2 AA-6 but the former missiles and racks plus the refueling probe are not included. I have ordered a set of Russian missiles, but the probe remains a headache, should i switch to ICM? then the revell one would be on sale.

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Didn't RoG had a corresponding and just as bad MiG-29 reboxed Tsukuda/ACE kit at the time..?

And a Flanker. IIRC Flankerman did an extensive accurisation article for Scale Models, much too challenging for me! I have both the Flanker and the Foxhound in the blue boxes illustrated above in the loft stash.

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I think it was entirely based on foggy pictures :)

It was a foggy kit ? one looked at the sprue and they were out of focus ? Heisenberg principle applied to plastic sprues... oh dear I'm weird again... :)

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Started building the ICM Foxhound, the 31B interceptor model, not the BM multirole. the Revell one is stored for spares, thank you for all the help, will show the result when it's completed :worship:

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