TF51GREGWISE Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ironwing Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Greg, Im new here but was never the less happy to see your treatise and the ensuing responses to your post. The subject of the Mustang's wings is one seldom covered and almost always wrongly done by builders in any scale. Another is the issue of canopy position when it is fully open and those that leave it sticking up in the air at its aft end. I dont know which error is worse. I've been working on a Mustang for a while now and must confess it is not an easy airplane to model. Its subtlty of curve and detail are extensive. Im unfamiliar with the 1/72 and 1/48 offerings available but have seen your work (in this post) and it looks quite true to the real thing. Do you have other postings of your Mustangs posted elsewhere on the site? I would enjoy seeing them if you do. A great posting you have here. Many thanks. Geoff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ironwing Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Greg, I can readily understand your liking for this particular bird. I especially like the black and yellow checkerboard against the polished aluminum. Judging from the tail it's a Cavalier. Exceptional finish on it regardless where it hails from. I ran into an A model out on the west coast a while back. It looked like it had just rolled out of the paint shop. Even with its Drab and Gray finish, it was gorgeous. I'll surely go have a look for other examples of your work. Mine is still in the building stage with the major fuselage and wing components in primer. Detailing of the wells is underway. What a rats nest of stuff. Just the same, thanks for your reply and the heads up. if you have an interest, mine is posted on LSP in their "In the Works" section, under the title, Hasegawa P-51 Mustang; same screen name. Regards Geoff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nige GSX1400 UK Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I think Supermarine tried the laminar flow wings on the Spiteful but found that even a couple of bugs splattered on the wings was enough to negate any improvement over the Spitfire mk21 on wing. The 'Speed Spitfire' also had its seams and rivets filled and a special paint finish with a smooth wax applied if I remember correctly, although it still wasnt fast enough to gain the record. Cheers Nige Still sad the Duxford P47 has apparently been sold, even if it is to an American buyer. <_< It would not be about a Squadron in the field doing it to gain some speed, it is about why NAA did it in the first place. The laminar flow airfoil that the P-51 employed was dependant for efficient operation on having a very smooth and defect free surface. The wing was filled at the factory to maintain that profile as best as possible as the more surface defects in the profile the greater performance hit would be taken. Legend has it that even an accumulation of bug hits on the leading edge could seriously ramp up the drag on the wing. I would be suprised if a T.O. does not exist stating that if repairs were done to the wing that they should be filled, primed and painted to restore a factory surface finish. Cheers Tony (Aircraft Engineer by trade for 25 years now, in case you were wondering) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BAM'n'IVM Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Sorry for the late contribution but... I remember reading in somebody's biography (and I don't remember whose - I don't think it was Yeager's...but it was some ETO ace or another) about how the crew chiefs would take care of their Mustangs, and he described how his crew chief would obsessively fill the wing seams, sand the wing smooth, laquer, and then wax the wings to ensure the best possible performance. This apparently happened on a weekly basis so the finish wouldn't degrade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BAM'n'IVM Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I was, of course, referring to the crewchief during WWII...wish I could remember where I read that tidbit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Prop Emblem decal for Hamilton Standard (real aircraft) Only one teeeeeesie little problem with that decal. Helvetica Bold wasn't invented until the 1950s That's the style, but the lettering is *technically* not correct for a WWII era emblem. However, I seriously doubt anyone will notice that in 1/48, or even 1/24! :) J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LITTLE BIRD 117 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 WOW! Great job. I just got my 1/32nd Hase today, so I am hoping this will help, alot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Fabulous information on how to do a Mustang wing correctly. Thanks to Greg. :) Darwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Beautiful shots of the cuffed prop. Some serious twist there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lebowski Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Beautiful shots of the cuffed prop. Some serious twist there! Slartibartfast...coolest user name ever. We need to get Tamiya to crank out a Heart Of Gold kit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Greg, has that owner dispensed with the filtered air system? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
illithid00 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Why are the filters taken out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 1) These aircraft are not 100 point restorations 2) These aircraft no longer operate off unimproved airfields 3) These aircraft no longer participate in large-scale missions where earlier aircraft have stirred up dirt and dust from said unimproved airfields. 4) If it's not needed, it's unecessary weight and complexity and maintenance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fallsbob Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Hi TF51gregwise I'm just starting my Tamiya Mustang & came here to see which panel lines get filled, but there are no pictures. Have they been deleted? BTW, it looks like you have what I would consider the best job in the world. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted July 16, 2007 Author Share Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n Wannabe Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Hi Greg... Where does the "demarkation" lie between the silver laquer on the lower surface of the wing, and the bare metal of the fuselage? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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