TF51GREGWISE Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 G'day! So I have some questions regarding the birds as they fly today. Specifically, "Evergreen" (Bob Hoover's plane) and Miss America. It's hard to tell in pictures just how the wings have been treated. It looks like the joins have been filled, as per your illustration. It also looks like the gun access doors have been filled. Is it just that the gun panels fit very well, and they are way over represented in scale model form? some of the NMF racers have very highly polished wings and fuselages. What's usually done with these birds regarding filled joints or not? I look forward to any insight you may have. Thanks in advance. Matthew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 G'day Greg, Thanks for the reply. I know there is a fair degree of variation in how aircraft are treated these days, and there's probably no 2 the same. I'll follow the old addage of "trust your references". Cheers M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TuveB Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Hi Nice references there TF51gregwise. Living Legend, a good filler for seams and rivets on models is Gunzes mr Filler 500. /T Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yeehah1 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 05-02-08 Ok, just came back to this thread....resurrecting it as it were... Greg, if you're still keeping an eye on this...I am making 3 Mustangs right now and have followed your advise about filling hte seams on the wings. My question relates to the Lacquered finish on the wings.... Is it top and bottom of the wings and where does the lacquer stop and the NMF start? You said earlier that there was a point where you are not supposed to paint...a strengthening palte of some sort to the fuselage? Can you illustrate this? Sorry for the hassle, but looking to add a degree of accuracy to my kits... Thanks in advance Liam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LIengineerBob Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Great reference here on the Mustang......I am also following the tips for the wings and other areas. I do have a question concerning the wheel bays.....what color were they or did they vary from different production runs?? The Detail and Scale book, I have using for reference doesn't clearly explain (at least to me) what color they were painted. Is there any way to get those cockpit photos of the TP-51D reposted?? I'm looking to build one of those (just ordered the canopy from Falcon Products), and was disappointed to see the two-seater cockpit photos missing. I plan on building it up as one of the US Army chase aircraft. THANKS!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LIengineerBob Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Thanks for the info. It looks like I can't go wrong on what ever I choose to do, and it can vary from aircraft to aircraft. I look forward to the photos being re-posted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 You might to try searching Hyperscale for this. The forum doesn't stash replies for very long but someone will gladly dispense Dana Bell's treatise on Mustang wheel wells. Worth the effort to find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jkelleycrna Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 It would not be about a Squadron in the field doing it to gain some speed, it is about why NAA did it in the first place. The laminar flow airfoil that the P-51 employed was dependant for efficient operation on having a very smooth and defect free surface. The wing was filled at the factory to maintain that profile as best as possible as the more surface defects in the profile the greater performance hit would be taken. Legend has it that even an accumulation of bug hits on the leading edge could seriously ramp up the drag on the wing. I would be suprised if a T.O. does not exist stating that if repairs were done to the wing that they should be filled, primed and painted to restore a factory surface finish. Cheers Tony (Aircraft Engineer by trade for 25 years now, in case you were wondering) No disrespect intended...but the explanation you gave was basically an aeronautical engineer's way of saying they did it to gain some speed. B) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 what can I say- the decal came from Hamilton Standard..tell them they got it wrong? this one is on a B-25 Actually yes. That's not a WWII era HS logo. That's a modern HS logo. They're different. The logo has changed several times over the years. Just because HS sent it to you doesn't mean anybody now working at HS has any clue what their WWII era logo looked like (I doubt they do). Someone from Airbus industrie was once quoted as saying "Our company is too young. We don't have any history." That's typical of most corporations when it comes to knowing about their own histories. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottD Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Greg, Was the panel lines on the wing of a P-51B where the light was mounted filled in also? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mirage2000 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Hello all just to say a huge thanks to Greg for his precious informations about the Mustang. I've spent hours looking in books and on the web and all I ever needed was here Thanks again Greg. Luc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MP703 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 nope. Greg, Do you know what panel lines were filled on the P-51B? I´m building the Tamiya P-51B right now and I would like to know. Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TF51GREGWISE Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Edited August 5, 2011 by TF51GREGWISE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kismorc Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hi Guys, I don't want to open a can of worms again, but could some of the experts comment on the photos below? I tried to highlight the panel lines and rivets with some red colors... I think some of the Mustangs below were never stripped so the panel lines cannot be claimed on that... Thanks for your inputs! Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kismorc Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tourist Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) Puttied doesn't mean totally invisible at all times it's something the crews had to work at. Conditions in the field and the stress applied to the wings in flight meant that sometimes some of the line and rivet would reappear, mostly it would be faint and not really crack the putty, other times the crews would have had to reapply putty. Also remember that dirt in a faint line will make it look thicker than it is. Here's a good example. The 2 first lines are barely visible they are properly puttied the wing is smooth, the third one is where the flap is so it is a "real" line. You did notice that "Nooky Booky 4" is in a scrap yard in the photo you posted and therefore in no flying condition, didn't you? Edited January 31, 2010 by tourist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EZhotshot511 Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 Ha I've got it easy with the revell kit. All I have to do is sand of the lines and it looks perfect! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Man I would have loved to have the kill markings panel, imagine that in your den! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarylH Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I came back for a review since I have the new 1:32 Tamiya P-51D on preorder. In my perfect world the new kit would have been released with no panel lines where the lines were filled and a drawing on the instructions where to scribe them if the modeler would prefer to model the kit in post-war configuration.....oh well <_< I imagine that I'll be seeing a lot of polished wood grained floors and contrasting painted gun bay covers too, but I know how I'll be doing mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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