T-bone Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 >>> yeah, Good Luck with that ... <<< Gregg Thanks for posting the link to the Tehran Times, I was wondering which camel won the third race at the Tehran Downs yesterday! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark M. Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Nothing more than political saber-rattling... Present a false argument so that the second argument sounds better. Second argument is "Well, just pay us what you owe" -- which is a false argument as well since they took action against our embassy and are not wanting for money Third is if we DO give in (HAH! Fat chance!) they get to rub our face in the dirt in front of the collective world, get brown-nose points for the muslim extremist community, set precedent to start asking for money on every little thing they don't deserve, all the while trying to play on the unstable economics gripping the Western world. It's a bullying move, designed to terrorize the West on a lesser scale than their normal nuclear threats. Another feeble attempt to destabilize non-muslim Western cultures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbrundt Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 >>> yeah, Good Luck with that ... <<< Gregg That's the funniest thing I've seen in a while now......good one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Why don't they just post in the Bad Trader forum? <_< Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wh1skea Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 You'd think they would be trying to get the 16 RF-4Es that we didn't deliver. At least then they could part them out and keep their F-4 fleet going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 On second thought they should go after the Shah's assets.......He made the deal!. No, that wouldn't work......they already sold his gold toilet seat....his aircraft.....I know maybe he's got some gold teeth left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Do Iranian carry the same armament as the US ones did? i.e. sidewinder/sparrow/phoenix missiles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Do Iranian carry the same armament as the US ones did? i.e. sidewinder/sparrow/phoenix missiles The F-14's delivered to Iran also included 250 or so AIM-54 Phoenix missiles. However, since those were the AIM-54A models AND they've had absolutely no tech support for those missiles since 1979, I seriously doubt they are still functional. There was a report out there (credible or not, who knows?) that stated that as of 1987 Iran only had 50 AMI-54's left of the 250 delivered. So if they have any left now, I would be shocked. Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Archangel Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 So they want their planes back? Send them some Revell 1/32 scale Tomcats and let them eat cake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaronw Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I think there are some embassy workers who would like 444 days of their lives back. You know that saying about keeping your mouth shut so people think you are an idiot vs opening your mouth to prove you are an idiot? Well I don't think the Iranian's do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Animal Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Yeah, we can give them 80 Hasegawa kits...Good luck on flying those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Do it yourself F-14 for Iran Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Sort of off-topic a few years back somebody posted a link to Iran using photos of some guys airfield dioramas to claim they had an exceptionally large and powerful airforce. Does anybody have a link to the original photos? That guy's models were amazing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) Yeah, we can give them 80 Hasegawa kits...Good luck on flying those. :unsure: easy there fella', that jokes already been done twice in this thread Edited August 5, 2010 by RKic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mkimages Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Dearest Iran, Hey, no problem guys; we'll get right on that. While you're waiting, how about you send all of the Tomcats you do have back home for some "factory maintenance", no charge. They could definitely use it after all this time. We'll return them to you with the new one when it is ready. Sincerely, the US of A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twhite80 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 That someone in Iran would even say that they wanted their Tomcats back is amazing and shows the truly distorted sense of reality that they must be living in. Are you sure you didn't find this on the Onion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 That someone in Iran would even say that they wanted their Tomcats back is amazing and shows the truly distorted sense of reality that they must be living in. Are you sure you didn't find this on the Onion? I got the link off of Alert 5 ... They only post news articles on there ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pigsty Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 On second thought they should go after the Shah's assets.......He made the deal!. No, that wouldn't work......they already sold his gold toilet seat....his aircraft.....I know maybe he's got some gold teeth left. He's been dead for the thick end of thirty years. Do Iranian carry the same armament as the US ones did? i.e. sidewinder/sparrow/phoenix missiles When Iran realised that the AIM-54 was becoming too tricky to support, they adapted the MIM-23B Hawk to fit the F-14. Which it does, just about, on the wing pylons. So although they lost out on the amazing* guidance, they retained most of the range and the striking power. And, bless 'em, as it's the next development of an established system, they've called it the AIM-23C. * allegedly**. ** or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny_7713 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 That someone in Iran would even say that they wanted their Tomcats back is amazing and shows the truly distorted sense of reality that they must be living in. Are you sure you didn't find this on the Onion? Or it was just a piece meant for internal consumption to show the government was standing up to the 'evil West'. I sincerely doubt any member of the Iranian government has any expectation they will ever get their Tomcat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Ah, yes. The AIM-54 Phoenix. The best anti-sub missile ever made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antonov Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 According to some sources, the Iranians actually had some pretty good success with the AIM-54, including downing a couple of Iraqi Tu-22s with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 (edited) According to some sources, the Iranians actually had some pretty good success with the AIM-54, including downing a couple of Iraqi Tu-22s with them. I've seen those reports and I find them to be a bit difficult to believe, to say the least. My reasoning for this is that most of the actual "combat" launches by the USN of the AIM-54 resulted in misses, this despite the airframes/radar being kept in great shape, oodles of tech support (including all the latest software upgrades) and the best training bar none in the world. Yet I am expected to believe that a third class air force, flying airframes that lacked the proper spare parts and proper upkeep, firing missiles that were out-dated and also lacking any tech support for at minimum 5 years (and even longer in some cases), guiding them with radars that again were without proper spare parts and upkeep was able to achieve "pretty good success"? I think this was mostly propaganda. It is more likely that the Iraqi clown pilots saw those big muthas comin' and dove straight into the ground. That makes much more sense than believing that the Iranians achieved what the USN could not. Edited August 5, 2010 by madmanrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boman Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Funny It took 30 years to realize they are missing a jet from the order. Haha - beeing a purchaser by trade, that is funny, the ultimat proof of bad workmanship Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boman Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Madmanrick - you should search airliners.net or warfighters.com under F-14 and Iran - you will see that they still have Tomcats flying. Looks to have the original engines aswell (not russian copies?) Should never underestimate a nations ability to reverse engineer, you'd be surpriced what a nation in need is capable of Israel did it with the Kfir from Mirage V - and there is countless other examples. Besides - Irangate isn't that long ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moose135 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Can you really blame them? I mean, unless your name is Dick Cheney, why wouldn't you want more Tomcats? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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