Rampage55 Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) don't forget to clip the back corner of those fuel tank fins. Que... :lol: Considering there are many war time pics of the 363rdTFW(P) showing mission markings, I will have to say the mission markings were painted on as the war progressed. Alright, so I'll have to go back and put on some mission markings... I had diagrams of the Mk84 AIR but I can't find them anymore ... and the only decent pic on the Internet I can find is this one: Yeah, I saw that one. As it turns out I had pics of them all along I just didn't know it. In the back of the Squadron pub. "Viper" by Lou Drendel theres a few pics of them. They're kind of dark and that's probably why I didn't notice them before. They seem pretty similar to what I've done but, I think the fins my be a little too big. I can live with that though, their close enough for me and I gotta to move on because I need to get my Harrier going... Edited December 17, 2010 by Rampage55 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 (edited) Que... :) the external fuel tank fins aren't proper for Desert Storm time period and need to be modded slightly. I tried looking, but I don't have any good pics to show. a NY ANG jet ... and from the web http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/me...F-1234S-048.jpg and someone's model http://hsfeatures.com/features04/images/F16D_PDS_10.jpg Edited December 18, 2010 by Benner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted December 18, 2010 Author Share Posted December 18, 2010 Thanks for that detail Benner!... :mellow: It looks as though I just need to sand the tips flat... Simple enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MKopack Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Why Hasegawa chose to mold these pylons and fuel tanks this way is strange. It may provide a strong join between the tank and pylon but it looks like crap. I decided to fill in the slots on the pylons and trim away the stubs from the tanks and drill in pins to hold it in place. Beautiful build! I also find it interesting that the pylons and tanks are molded that way. As I recall, on the 1:1 scale aircraft that tanks are not even removable from the pylons (except by the jettison cartridges...) I spent a couple of nights early in the war building up external 370 gallon fuel tanks from kits - when they're jettisoned, the new ones have to come from somewhere! It was easy duty, there's not that much to a fuel tank, and I figured a whole lot safer than building up bombs over in the bomb dump. Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 .. to revisit the thing about mission markings. You can watch some ground crew painting on a mission marking here. http://www.realmilitaryflix.com/public/508.cfm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks Benner!...Except he was applying them to the opposite side I was planning on applying then to. But here's a photo the plane I'm doing with them on the right side. Did they put them on both sides? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Thanks Benner!...Except he was applying them to the opposite side I was planning on applying then to.But here's a photo the plane I'm doing with them on the right side. Did they put them on both sides? I believe so, they painted the mission markings on the port side and when they ran out of room they painted them on the starboard. According Jakub's site, "Eat my shorts" flew 56 sorties, there's no way there are 56 bomb markings in that pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Middleton Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Thanks Ben!...That's good enough for me.Why Hasegawa chose to mold these pylons and fuel tanks this way is strange. It may provide a strong join between the tank and pylon but it looks like crap. I decided to fill in the slots on the pylons and trim away the stubs from the tanks and drill in pins to hold it in place. A flat coat has been sprayed and some weathering with pastel dust has been applied. This was again sealed with a final dull coat. At which point I felt it was save to remove the masking from the canopy. I still need to paint the canopy frame between the front and rear sections. After I had sprayed the dull coat on I realized that I had forgotten to apply the mission markings to the right side of the nose in front of the canopy. My question is, were these mission markings applied one at a time after each mission as the war progressed or were they applied all at once at the end of the conflict for their return home? Thanks, Mark Mark, your F-16 looks great! Looking forward to seeing more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kurnass77 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Any progress on this beauty? :D Gianni Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Mark, your F-16 looks great! Looking forward to seeing more Thanks Ken!... :) Any progress on this beauty? Well Gianni it sure took me a while to get around to it but I have finally made some progress with this build. Thanks for asking... The landing gear and doors have been attached but I still need to flat spot the tires. It's almost done, the thing that has really slowed this build is getting bogged down with the stuff that I'm going hang off it. Definitely one of my least favorite parts of the process, especially doing missiles... Which I still need to finish off. I am pleased with the way the Mk84 AIR's turned out though, not perfect but, good enough for me. I added some bomb graffiti with a white pastel pencil and sealed it with a dull coat. I swiped the ALQ thingiy for the centerline station from a Revell A-10 and the AIM-9's are from a Tamyia F-16 kit. I also added 16 of the eventual 56 mission markings carried by this aircraft, I wanted to depict it during the early stages of the conflict. I was hoping to have this build done by Thanksgiving of last year so I could have enough time to complete another build for this GB but, life had other plans... Oh well, I should have this one finished in a few weeks. Thanks for looking, Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 It's almost done, the thing that has really slowed this build is getting bogged down with the stuff that I'm going hang off it. Definitely one of my least favorite parts of the process, especially doing missiles... Me too! I have builds that aren't quite done because the stuff hanging on them isn't done. I am pleased with the way the Mk84 AIR's turned out though, not perfect but, good enough for me. I added some bomb graffiti with a white pastel pencil and sealed it with a dull coat. Thos Mk 84s look awesome, nice scratch work and graffiti. ALQ thingiy Beautiful work Mark!! I really like your weathering, especially on those tanks and bombs. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks Mason!... B) I'm glad I took the time to do the Mk84 AIR's, especially considering that's what they seemed to carry most often. I must confess I'm looking forward to getting back to building something with Marines on the side of it though... Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thanks Mason!... B) I'm glad I took the time to do the Mk84 AIR's, especially considering that's what they seemed to carry most often. I must confess I'm looking forward to getting back to building something with Marines on the side of it though... B) I suggest you build a Marine Corps OV-10 Bronco F-16 is looking great, those bombs make me want to try making those Mk84 AIR too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Those bombs will make your Viper look something special in the flood of Viper models. Great work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kurnass77 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Great work all around! I love the graffiti because aren't decals! Gianni Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hammerhead Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Outstanding. Especially the exhaust panels and the Mk84 AIR's...nice attention to detail. B/R Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Thank you gentleman, your encouragement is much appreciated!... It took me a lot longer than I thought, but I did get it done in the end. I'll post the rest of the finished images in the Gallery section. I would also like to thank Benner and Pete for hosting a brilliant GB. My only regret is that I didn't have more time to contribute more. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toniosky Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Nicely done ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Nicely done ! Thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 dude, another flawless build from you, awesome work did you take any measurements when making your Mk84 bombs? like fin size, where to cut, etc? I'd like to make some for myself. Also, what do you use for the fuze? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan buysse Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hi, It's a beauty, I love the way the Mk-84 AIR fins turned out. I'm also taking a bit longer than anticipated to finish anything, but I hope to get the two Jaguars done by sunday night. Cheers, Stefan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Hi,It's a beauty, I love the way the Mk-84 AIR fins turned out. I'm also taking a bit longer than anticipated to finish anything, but I hope to get the two Jaguars done by sunday night. Cheers, Stefan. cutting it close are we? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) dude, another flawless build from you, awesome work :)did you take any measurements when making your Mk84 bombs? like fin size, where to cut, etc? I'd like to make some for myself. Also, what do you use for the fuze? Thanks Benner! I'm looking to join you on the "Indefinite ODS GB" for a bit after this GB is over. I have a few more ODS build I'd like to do get done... I have a diagram of the Mk 84 AIR's that I used and I have been meaning to scan it and post it up here. I just haven't got around to it yet. For the fins I cut a master from plastic card using the diagram as a pattern and then used that to copy the rest of the fins. I'll get a scan up of the diagram and more detail of what I did by the end of the GB. I'm also taking a bit longer than anticipated to finish anything, but I hope to get the two Jaguars done by sunday night. Thanks Stefan, I'm rooting for ya!... One of the reasons I like GB's so much is they help provide the motivation I seem to need to get projects finished off. If it wasn't for the looming "ODS GB" deadline my Viper would more than likely still be collecting dust. Edited February 25, 2011 by Rampage55 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benner Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Thanks Benner! I'm looking to join you on the "Indefinite ODS GB" for a bit after this GB is over. I have a few more ODS build I'd like to do get done... haha, awesome. Jakub's kinda in the Indefinite ODS GB but he doesn't make any progress As for me, I only have room for about 4 more kits then I have to stop The line up for the rest of the year is a French Mirage F1CR, F/A-18D, and a B-52. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rampage55 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 A "Green Knights" Delta eehhh?... I'll be looking forward to that one. Only four more Benner? Say it ain't so... Perhaps the Mayans were on to something. If you stop building Gulf War stuff then the end times must be close at hand... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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