singeri Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Hi all - I just got the Waldron Punch & Die set from Roll Models. Been pondering for 2 years on whether to spend the bucks on this thing, but after repeated attemps to fabricate something functional like it, I just threw in the towel and ordered. Yeah, it's pricey, but as you can see below, it does make nice discs out of styrene. Looking forward to trying other materials like PE or lead foil. Roll Models has it for $48 plus $9 shipping to east coast....pricey, but IMO, well worth it. :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob de Bie Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Roll Models has it for $48 plus $9 shipping to east coast....pricey, but IMO, well worth it.[/i][/color][/size] :P I'm still not sure whether I should be proud of it, but I bought a similar set two weeks ago from a modeler's estate for....... 2 euros! Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Hi all -I just got the Waldron Punch & Die set from Roll Models. Been pondering for 2 years on whether to spend the bucks on this thing, but after repeated attemps to fabricate something functional like it, I just threw in the towel and ordered. Yeah, it's pricey, but as you can see below, it does make nice discs out of styrene. Looking forward to trying other materials like PE or lead foil. Roll Models has it for $48 plus $9 shipping to east coast....pricey, but IMO, well worth it. Well, that's quite a very well invested amount of money, Sean! I got it as a gift back in the early '90s, when I was 11 'n' had the faintest idea whut it was for! :lol: Many lifetimes later, I fished it out from where the set was, after havin' read on a modellin' mag 'bout all of the marvelous things ya could do with it: from fillin' those awful sink marks - especially on landing gear legs - to replicatin' whole radial engine cilinders. I still remember the bloke who gave my Waldron set stressed the fact of the expensive price on it, so I treasured my set through the years as if it were made of solid gold, even though I didn't still know whut use to give it, really... Then I learnt 'bout all those instrument dials 'n' placards the set was primarily meant for! Now ya've got to get the Sub-Miniature set, which is even more expensive. Say, Sean; whut use are ya gonna give it? I'm still not sure whether I should be proud of it, but I bought a similar set two weeks ago from a modeler's estate for....... 2 euros! In all honesty, Rob, were I ya, I'd go pick up Ellen Hoog at her home 'n' go celebratin' 'til I couldn't hold any more Heineken! Two Euros! Then again, I think I'd also go pick up Sophie Polkamp, Eva de Goede, Carlijn Welten, retired Miek van Geehuizen 'n' Fatima Moreira de Melo! Hell, go pick up Doutzen Kroes as well to good effect...!!! :wub: Ya lucky bloke... 'N' if ya see any of those sheilas, would ya please tell 'em they've got their #1 fan down here in the Pampas, please? My regards to Maxima, by the way. Incidentally, whut use do ya give yer set, mate? Cheers to the both of ya, Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 (edited) A couple of years ago, after pondering for six years, I decided to suck it up and went ahead and bought both the larger and mini Waldron sets. To be honest, I am happy I did! They don't get used much but when they do they are worth their weight in gold! Looking back, this is one of the tools, like an airbrush, that now I could not live without.... Rob Edited November 19, 2010 by TOPGUN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 A couple of years ago, after pondering for six years, I decided to suck it up and went ahead and bought both the larger and mini Waldron sets. Hmph... :) May I ask ya kindly whut the six-year-ponderin' time was owin' to, Robbie? A mate of mine thought the price on the set was superfluous for sumthin' which it could be easily replaced... Bein' hell bent to prove his silly theory, he went buyin' one of these revolvin' turret hole punchers only to dissasemble it in order to remove each one of the six steel punches in the turret, to use 'em individually with a strickin' hammer. Not only did he almost lose his fingers in the process of settin' the steel punches free from the turret, but also, once he got 'em ready to use, he hammered his remainin' fingers each time he stroke the punches... :lol: 'N' yet; he discovered that the steel punches produced an awful cut on plastic. Only then did he accept he needed to purchase one of these decent Punch & Die sets. ;) Cheers, bloke Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 Uncle Unc - love your comments about your mate LOL... I plan on using my P&D set a lot on my next build.... the 1:12 Mercury capsule.... I'm planning on lighting the panel and interior. Topgun - do you really find that the mini set was a good purchase...a modeling buddy of mine is thinking about getting both, but just can't get past the $98 for the mini set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 (edited) I have both sets and yeah...it's a lot of money if you don't use them. There are plenty of times I would like to use either set but because of the limitation of getting the work-piece under the clamp they aren't much use except for cutting very precisely dimensioned holes and discs out of Evergreen stock I used the 1/32 set just the other day to knock a hole out of some thin sheet. ....the sheet/hole was then placed over a 1/32 Me232 instrument bezel and the 'hole' was used as a template to paint the rim of the fuel gauge yellow But both sets are really a "solution in search of a problem"...but it's also better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it :) Edited November 19, 2010 by ThatJeffGuy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 TJG - "both sets are really a "solution in search of a problem"" - think you hit the nail (or punch LOL) on the head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 (edited) Hmph... May I ask ya kindly whut the six-year-ponderin' time was owin' to, Robbie? Yeah..I know. Six years is a long time to be pondering about these things but I just couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of money for something I thought I'd barely use. You know, it is one of these things that you don't think you need until you really wish you have one to complete a project. I avoided it for a while, trying to do things like that mate of yours (without almost chopping my fingers though) until I just knew it was time. Looking back, I can honestly say that I did not need these sets when I was mainly doing aircraft but when I made the switch to armor, there was no way I could avoid getting the two sets I ended up getting. Rob Edited November 19, 2010 by TOPGUN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 (edited) Topgun - do you really find that the mini set was a good purchase...a modeling buddy of mine is thinking about getting both, but just can't get past the $98 for the mini set. I've made use of both sets to make a bunch of things I know would have been next to impossible to make otherwise. I do a lot of armor (artillery mainly) so, for me, the sets are worth every penny I spent on them. Yes, $98 is a lot of money but as with everything else, having tools that help you achieve what you're after makes it all worthwhile. Rob Edited November 19, 2010 by TOPGUN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Kev Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 You know, I spent about 2 years wishing I had one of these sets, and using all kinds of homespun methods and alternatives to get the same results. Mostly effective, but a lot of mucking about for an inferior result. Then, last year I finally bought one - and haven't used it at all! Kev Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 :), Ain't that the way Kev? I don't know how many tools (both modeling and general) I've bought over the last 30 odd years and haven't used at all or hardly ever. :), Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Satelliteman Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I bought both sets back in '94. Sometimes I use them quite often, sonetimes not for a long time. they are very helpful when needed. Oh, using a heavy hammer is asking for trouble. You can bend the smaller punches rather easily. I use a stick of 1"x1" wood w/tape on the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) Uncle Unc - love your comments about your mate LOL... I plan on using my P&D set a lot on my next build.... the 1:12 Mercury capsule.... I'm planning on lighting the panel and interior. Oh, that bloke... He uses to have smart yet dangerous ideas; he reminds me of Murray Bozinsky, the wise guy in Riptide, an old TV series of the '80s. One time we were at home tryin' to vac-form a 1/48 Stuka B2 canopy, 'n' while I was gettin' the mold ready, he suddenly disappeared into the kitchen 'n' came back bringin' one of my mum's home appliances... An electric grill with a variable temperature switch! I honestly thought he intended to make pop-corn to go with the Pepsi, but then I saw him get the grill inverted 'n' place the empty aluminium tin cans at each corner of the grill, in order to place the frame containin' the sheet of clear plastic under the whole gadget. :blink: At first I thought, "This chap is SO enlightened...!!!" 'til my mum sniffed the smell of burnt plastic 'n' came to find out whut it was. Needless to say Murray was almost instantly banned from ever comin' home again. <_< - do you really find that the mini set was a good purchase...a modeling buddy of mine is thinking about getting both, but just can't get past the $98 for the mini set. Uh-huh... If ya liked yer regular size Waldron set, then the sub-miniature one is a must. It's impresive the stuff ya're able to replicate in a 1/48th scale cockpit with the sub-miniature set. Of course ya'll also need a set of miniature pliers 'n' a good magnifyin' glass. You know, it is one of these things that you don't think you need until you really wish you have one to complete a project. I avoided it for a while, trying to do things like that mate of yours (without almost chopping my fingers though) until I just knew it was time. Noooiiiceee...!!! Me thinks my mate Murray would feel much better after readin' this. :lol: I use a stick of 1"x1" wood w/tape on the end. Interestin'... Can we please see any pictures? I use the hammer of my 240mm Thör Action Figure, which is strangely made of stainless steel. Gonna see if I can take a picture of it. Cheers, Unc² Edith Piaf: P.S. Has anyone ever used "them" Waldron sets along with Waldron instrument dials 'n' placards or is me the only odd out in here? Edited November 21, 2010 by Uncle Uncool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 Oh, using a heavy hammer is asking for trouble. You can bend the smaller punches rather easily.I use a stick of 1"x1" wood w/tape on the end. I use a small hammer that is used for leather punches....seems to give good striking on the punches without be overly strong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 'til my mum sniffed the smell of burnt plastic 'n' came to find out whut it was. Needless to say Murray was almost instantly banned from ever comin' home again. Nice - luv the smell of melting styrene....NOT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I use a small hammer that is used for leather punches....seems to give good striking on the punches without be overly strong. You're all gonna laugh....I always use the bottom of my bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 You're all gonna laugh....I always use the bottom of my bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin Jeff - I think that's a fine idea...it's got mass, and small to hold well. I'm sure you can deliver a precise blow to the punch LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Actually it's not that bad Irv...I'm dreading the day the bottle fractures in my hand though ....but I only use a small tap. It's funny for me though because I'm such a 'tool-head' since re-starting this hobby 5 years ago. There's an expression that I often quote that goes: If the only tool you have is a hammer....soon everything looks like a nail I don't have the damn hammer....but I do have a contour guage I picked up on spec that I haven't used yet ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Jeff - A contour guage! that's something I need to order from Micro-Mark....get me back on their mailing list! Funny - I also got back into the hobby 5 yrs ago.....I take it your married w/kids, like me? LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Irv...I don't know about that Micro-Mark contour guage. It's a lot bigger than you think and the little 'nails' that make up the surface are the size of finishing nails...about 1/8 inch. So it would be fine for forming bulkheads in 1/16, 1/24 etc. but I think it's use is limited in the smaller scales. Maybe there's a finer version floating around and I bought the clunker....not sure. But right now it's definitely in-search of a problem. Re: kids...no, I did that 26 years ago and left that wife. At the time in 2006 my current wife was travelling all over North America for one of my clients and I had a lot of time on my hands. My sister sent me a 1/72 Hurricane for my birthday in 06 and the card said "figured you had a lot of time on your hands" I thought she was nuts....next day I bought my first airbrush and haven't looked back. I got her back though....that next Christmas I got her a starter-set for stained-glass work...she's very handy/crafty and took to it like a duck to water....she curses me ever since Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Irv...I don't know about that Micro-Mark contour guage. It's a lot bigger than you think and the little 'nails' that make up the surface are the size of finishing nails...about 1/8 inch. :blink: 1/8 inch dia. each "nail" comprisin' the Micro-Mark contour gauge, Jeff? Wow, that's 'bout the size of a regular Dremel bit shank! That's big! My wise mate, Murray, made his own contour gauge out of a lice 'n' nits removin' comb which "nails" were .039 inch dia. Maybe there's a finer version floating around and I bought the clunker....not sure. But right now it's definitely in-search of a problem. Meanin' ya've got Micro-Mark's? I bought mine from Travis Perkins, but I don't quite like it; I'd rather have one with "nails" made of steel, provided not 1/8 inch in dia... Tile Profile Gauge 140mm In case ya can't see the picture on Travis Perkins' site My sister sent me a 1/72 Hurricane for my birthday in 06 and the card said "figured you had a lot of time on your hands" I thought she was nuts... :) Noooiiiceee...!!! At least the kit was delivered unbroken to ya; my ex girlfriend brought me the 1/48 Promodeller PBY-5A Catalina a few years ago. When I went to her house to fetch my gift, I rang the intercom, she leant outside her window in the second storey 'n' tossed the kit down to me on the street on pretense that with the price it cost, the box ought to have flown by itself all the way down! Tried catchin' the box's fall, but tree branches, TV cable lines, passerbies 'n' the box's aerodynamics itself botched up my ever attempt. Some parts inside broke... that next Christmas I got her a starter-set for stained-glass work...she's very handy/crafty and took to it like a duck to water....she curses me ever since Oh, of course there was no Christmas present whutsoever from me to that insolent sheila... ;) Cheers, Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThatJeffGuy Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 One word of warning Uncle...I suck badly at estimating sizes of stuff. My dad, you could hold your hands 'x' distance apart and he would tell you within a 1/4 inch. He even used to guess the size of feeler guages without looking when I used to hand them him back in the day when we gapping plugs on his father's tractor. Suffice to say...1/8 _may_ be an exaggeration on my part. But I do have the MicroMark tool and it's all metal and the 'nails' (or whatever they're called) look to me like they're about the size of 1/8 inch finishing nails. Actually..I just placed it against a ruler and there are 32 nails per inch..so they're 1/32 finishing nails and you can see light through it. I really do suck at guessing dimensions . Looks like Murray may have been on the right track there. From the looks of the one you posted there are no gaps so maybe it would be better for our purposes than the MicroMark version. One of these days I have to take this tool out of my bag....it's beginning to look like a graphite 2-iron I paid big bucks for and never used Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Irv...I don't know about that Micro-Mark contour guage. It's a lot bigger than you think and the little 'nails' that make up the surface are the size of finishing nails...about 1/8 inch. So it would be fine for forming bulkheads in 1/16, 1/24 etc. but I think it's use is limited in the smaller scales. Maybe there's a finer version floating around and I bought the clunker....not sure. But right now it's definitely in-search of a problem. I looked again at the MM contour gage...yes, I agree with your 1/8th assessment...did a quick search for a high fidelity gage and came up empty....maybe a drafting store would know where to get one for finer measurements. Re: kids...no, I did that 26 years ago and left that wife. At the time in 2006 my current wife was travelling all overNorth America for one of my clients and I had a lot of time on my hands. My sister sent me a 1/72 Hurricane for my birthday in 06 and the card said "figured you had a lot of time on your hands" :) I thought she was nuts....next day I bought my first airbrush and haven't looked back. I got her back though....that next Christmas I got her a starter-set for stained-glass work...she's very handy/crafty and took to it like a duck to water....she curses me ever since ;) Ha ha...great story...did you finish the Hurricane? I got back into the hobby when I found a partially completed Hasegawa F-105 that I was working on in the late '80s with a buddy who had all the tools....I moved away, boxed that thing up and it sat in storage for 16 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
singeri Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Ok guys - what about this gauge : http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/400-20...ring_and_layout It says it uses 1/32 inch pins...that seems like pretty good fidelity even in 1:72 scale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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