Aigore Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thanx Mike Yup it´s all clear coated and curing at the moment ;) I´ll start with the decals on wednesday when they let me out from work :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KRI76 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Seriously: three-tones camouflages are awesome! You're doing great Janne! /Kristian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin Czarnowicz Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Aigore, good job. I think you choose better colors than I did for my F-5. If you want to blur a little bit the colors of the camo I recommend you a coat of vallejo satin varnish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanx Krisitian and Marcin :D I think Future/Pledge blends the colors pretty well too. Declas tomorrow after work :D Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diego Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Splendid, as always :D :D Can't wait to see the markings applied... (It would be cool to see the eagle head or tiger head test-applied on the camo, for scale effect...) BTW- did you already made a choice of the warload configuration? Greetings Diego Edited January 25, 2011 by Diego Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Splendid, as always :D :D Can't wait to see the markings applied... (It would be cool to see the eagle head or tiger head on the camo, for scale effect...) BTW- did you already made a choice of the warload configuration? Greetings Diego Thanx Diego :D Well nothing definitive right now... I´m thinking either napalm or clusterbombs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm back on here after a short time away and when I saw your name next to this build I had to check it out. The choice of Air arm and colourscheme which has been replicated flawlessly, makes this one outstanding build so far. It will look the "mutts nuts" next to the F4E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mario krijan Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Looks very nice and colors looks very well!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanx Scott and Mario "mutts nuts" ? ROFLMAO Sounds like the F-5 will be dangling from the rear of the F-4 like a cluster of dingle berries :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qian Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 WOW! I like what I'm seeing so far! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanx Qian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Decals are on..... at least the ones I didn´t destroy :( The decals from Hidecal (Diego) are fantstic but they are a bit thin an my butter fingers mangaed to ruin a couple. I managed to muck up the persian numerals above the flag...I had to do some surgery and cut a piece from another decal to save it. And on this side I managed to totally destroy the number two that should have been beow the flag.... it simply folded and I couldn´t unfold it again Other than that it was a delight to put on the decals and it was nice not to have to put on 4-500 decals :P Now I´ll leave the microsol to do it´s work until tomorrow and then I´ll seal them and prepare for weathering and final asembly Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qian Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Looking good! By the way if you find the decals thin, I don't think there should be a need for mircrosol as it can melt the decal. Maybe that explained why you ruined some of the decals? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tigereye Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) wooooow its admirable ,incredible ;) Edited January 27, 2011 by tigereye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Looking good! By the way if you find the decals thin, I don't think there should be a need for mircrosol as it can melt the decal. Maybe that explained why you ruined some of the decals? Thanx mate! Oh I don´t exactly drench the decals in micrsol, I know they are sensitive to it so I apply it with only a slightly damp brush :D I managed to muck up the decals when I transfered them from the paper to the model :P No worries tho, I´m getting replacements ( I´ll try not to mess them up, thanx Diego! :) ) wooooow its admirable ,incredible Thanx :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dragan_mig31 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 looking great my friend :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin Czarnowicz Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Aigore, good job man! How was HDL decals, is it really so thin? How about covering the panel lines and rivets? As I told you, las time I was using HDL was while ago - their set for Mi-24 was horrible. It is good to hear that they better now. Are you going to change 1 with 0 in farsi/arabic numerals over Iranian flag on the tail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Thanx Dragan and Marcin :) The decals are insanely thin...very fragile but look terriffic! with a dab of microsol the carrier film just disapaers! They suck right into panellines and rivets really great stuff. I´m getting replacements for the decals I botched so yeah, I´ll replace the numerals :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blunce Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 WOW! Lots of progress since I last checked in! Congrats on the baby! Hope you'll still find time to get some modeling done. Did you freehand the camo on top surfaces? If so, can you tell me about how you had it setup (thinner ratio/ air pressure/ airbrush?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 WOW! Lots of progress since I last checked in! Congrats on the baby! Hope you'll still find time to get some modeling done.Did you freehand the camo on top surfaces? If so, can you tell me about how you had it setup (thinner ratio/ air pressure/ airbrush?) Thanx Yep it´s freehand..... I´m used to enamels and use humbrol mostly but well because of mini me I´m considering going over to acrylics instead.... So the brown is a mix of enamels and thinned to about 50% and sprayed with 1.5 bar of preassure, think that´s about 20 PSI. The green is tamyia acrylics and that went down a bit unsmoother....I mixed it with alcohol and that made the paint dry a bit too fast and I got som clogging and lots of splutter. Think I´ll use warer or Tamyia thinner next time tho. ended up shooting it at 2 bar, about 30 psi. I use an Iwata Custom Micron-B for the finer lines and a Iwata HP-CH for the general painting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Cooper Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Yeah. Go acrylic Janne! Make the change! F-5's looking good Janne. The decals add extra colour that makes the already nice camoflage come to life. Beautiful! Cheers Ian Edited January 27, 2011 by Ian Cooper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Janne, Janne, Janne, I tell you what! I have come to expect nothing less than perfection from you and your modeling skills. This is just turning out to be totally and utterly FRICKIN AWESOME! Great job, can't wait to see her all done and weathered. Really love your weathering. Don't keep us waiting too long! Jeremy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMan Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Yeah. Go acrylic Janne! Make the change! Do we get to see decals soon? I agree with going with Acrylics because the nice thing about that is you can do an OIL wash on top of the Acrylic and you don't have to put down a coat of Future in order to do the oil wash because the oil thinner wont remove the Acrylic base coat. I do all my main painting with Acrylics then go back and do different washes with oils and use regular enamel thinner and all thats removed is the enamel paint and not the Acrylic. I really hope that this all made sense. My doctor up'd my pain medication from 5/500 Vicodin to 10/500 and whew we whew I'm not used to it yet. HEHE! Jeremy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blunce Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Thanx Yep it´s freehand..... I´m used to enamels and use humbrol mostly but well because of mini me I´m considering going over to acrylics instead.... So the brown is a mix of enamels and thinned to about 50% and sprayed with 1.5 bar of preassure, think that´s about 20 PSI. The green is tamyia acrylics and that went down a bit unsmoother....I mixed it with alcohol and that made the paint dry a bit too fast and I got som clogging and lots of splutter. Think I´ll use warer or Tamyia thinner next time tho. ended up shooting it at 2 bar, about 30 psi. I use an Iwata Custom Micron-B for the finer lines and a Iwata HP-CH for the general painting. I'm just finishing up my first freehand camo (3 color) paint job as well. I also have an Iwata HP-CH but that is for my fine line stuff and my Badger 155 is used as a general painting AB. I thinned my paints about the same or more, and though the lines are pretty nice, I couldn't seem to get rid of the slight overspray between colors, regardless of thinner paint and varying the air pressure. The edge was just too soft for my liking, though it may be acceptable. I'lll have to post some pics to get some opinions on that. So I ended up having to go back through and touch up some of the uglier spots. I could just be being too picky about my work, we'll see once I post some pics. Thanks for the info! Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Thanx Ian and Jeremy :) Brian, There are ways and techniques to improve upon freehand cammo, for instance a light polish with a cloth or micro mesh can remove some softness and overspray. I usually go over the edges with the base color as well to make it more even. When you put on clear coats it makes it further more distinct since small nuance differences between the base color and the cammo disapears. Here´s some of my freehand cammos: Mitsu F-1 this was my first use of the HP-CH and it´s painted with Tamyia acrylics with Tamyia thinner. You get a very fine atomization with Tamyia colors due to the small size of the pigments. this is almost unachievable with humbrol enamels. In Xtracolor you get an even finer degree of atmoization when you shoot ...but it stinks like heck. Mirage IIICJ, my first cammo with Custom MIcron-B. This is a mix of Hmbrol enamels and Agama acrylic, the light stone and brown is HUmbrol and the green is Agama. I had problems with Agama when mixed with alcohol since it dried too fast an caused *****tering and finally clogged the poor CM-B And here´s the Persian Phantom, And I`m actually quite displeased withg the paintjob on this, I used my CM-B for the cammo scheme but I failed to get a good mix of paint and thinner, it´s all painted in HUmbrol enamels. As you can see the pattern is a bitt too soft and undestinct compared with the Mirage. An added issue is that either my needle is bent or the nozzle is deformed because I don´t get a nice , straight spray cone anymore, it veers to the right and the spray image is a bit oval. And the F-5 is a bit better, I got the enamel mixes right but the Tamyia dark green got mixed with alcohol and caused clogging and spluttering. There a little quickie about my cammo painting :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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