Pierre Sacha Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 does he do the soft edge camo? I have always admired Paul Coudeyrettes brush painted models over at HS. See HERE . Tried contacting him but no joy. How does he achieve this amazing finish especially the soft edge with a brush? Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 With a soft brush? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelmkr Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 does he do the soft edge camo?I have always admired Paul Coudeyrettes brush painted models over at HS. See HERE . Tried contacting him but no joy. How does he achieve this amazing finish especially the soft edge with a brush? Pierre I think it's a matter of language. "Brush painted" can just as easliy mean air brushed as it can hand brushed. I would hesitate to think one can produce soft edges of that quality with a hand brush; but if he can, my hat off to him... extremely impressive. Regardless, a nice finish and nice build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shawn M Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 soft edges can be produced by using thinned paint and building up the edges slowly. You can also "sand" through the hard edge to get a softer edge, I use scotch brite pads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelmkr Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 soft edges can be produced by using thinned paint and building up the edges slowly.You can also "sand" through the hard edge to get a softer edge, I use scotch brite pads. Man, that sounds like too much work! I'll take the quick and dirty way out and air brush. I'll say it again, then... that is really impressive if hand brushed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 ... that is really impressive if hand brushed It is hand brushed. He's been hand brushing his whole life using enamels. He uses Rub 'n Buff for NMF and he doesn't rescribe raised panel lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelmkr Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 It is hand brushed. He's been hand brushing his whole life using enamels. He uses Rub 'n Buff for NMF and he doesn't rescribe raised panel lines. Thanks for the bio. I am going to have to go back and look at his other work on HS with a renewed eye to how it was done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) I am going to have to go back and look at his other work on HS with a renewed eye to how it was done. He's done a 1/32 French F-100D and spoke about how he did the painting on a French forum. First two coats done by applying non-thinned base colour paint with a flat brush. Then he drybrushed each panel with the lightened base colour using a round brush. After this he added various shades to weather the camouflage. He used pastels too. Edited December 15, 2010 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I wouldn't call that a feathered edge, it appears that way due to the excellent weathering applied. He definitely has mastered Brush Painting. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AV O Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) I wouldn't call that a feathered edge, it appears that way due to the excellent weathering applied.He definitely has mastered Brush Painting. Curt For more about Paul Coudeyrette's models, you may go to this link I started a while ago : http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.p...c=40284&hl= It will guide you to some of his finest works, and give you some hints about the way he works. Skyhawk, F-100D, Hustler (!!!) More here : http://fighters.forumactif.com/1-32e-1-24e-f82/ 2 pages. http://fighters.forumactif.com/1-32e-1-24e-f40/ 2 pages. http://fighters.forumactif.com/1-48e-f69/1-48e-f69-105.htm pages 3/4. Watch and Enjoy ! AV O Edited December 19, 2010 by AV O Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Expat Tomcat Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) I wouldn't call that a feathered edge, it appears that way due to the excellent weathering applied.He definitely has mastered Brush Painting. Curt I only looked at the 1/32 F-4E, so I'm only judging from that example. That being said, I'd say I could tell it was painted with a brush, by hand rather than using an airbrush. The edge is still much harder than an airbrushed edge is. It appears softer than most every other example of brush painted camo I've ever seen, but still not as soft as an airbrushed edge. I'm an artist, I have alot of experience with different paint mediums and application methods. A soft edge, like an airbrushed edge COULD be achieved with a LOT of practice and the proper type of brush(es). Learning to feather edges consistantly would be the biggest challenge. Softening edges in oil paintings to create effects similar to how photography focuses the eye to the main part of the composition would be a similar technique. In photographs the lens focuses on the main subject of the picture, the edges are soft and out of focus. This is a compositional trick often used by portrait painters to direct your eye to the main subject of the painting. In the case of a portrait that would be the face or the whole person. All the other edges are slightly softened by using large round brushes, only slightly dampened with thinner. The brush is almost dry, and is dragged across the paint in an outward direction and ONLY in that same direction. As you do this the brush picks paint and is only clean enough to use for a few strokes. It then has to be cleaned of paint and dried to it's state of near dryness and on to the next part of the edge. Now, I have to say this, this technique works with oil paints because of their extended drying time. The faster cure time of modeling paints could be problematic. You'd have to work FAST with the edge and fast can lead to mistakes and inconsistantcy. All in all, your choice is to spend a lot of time mastering this with model paints( even then the major limitation will be the type of paint used and it's specific work time) or just go buy an airbrush. It would probably be time better spent learning how to use an airbrush because it will probably take up less time to master that than it would to master the technique I'm talking about. It takes some painters YEARS to learn the difference between too much and not enough. It's the kind of thing that painting instructors fuss about with nearly every student because it's a critical part of painting, like learning to use perspective. When it's wrong it just doesn't look right. In this particular instance how much an edge would be feathered would also depend on the scale of the subject. This Edited December 16, 2010 by Expat Tomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 Expat Tomcat, Thanks for that interesting insight, u got me experimenting now :lol: Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cloggy Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 I've been brush-painting my models forever - never had an airbrush. Soft edges on camouflage is quite easily achievable using a short-haired flat brush and dry-brushing the edges. It sometimes needs to be built up i.e a couple of coats, but it works really well. Unfortunately I don't have a photo at the moment to demonstrate this, but I'll see if I can take one later if anyone's interested. The problem I've seen at shows with some airbrushed camo is that the edge becomes too soft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pinguis Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Unfortunately I don't have a photo at the moment to demonstrate this, but I'll see if I can take one later if anyone's interested. Yes, please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted December 19, 2010 Author Share Posted December 19, 2010 Would be appreciated Cloggy! Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 So would be a brush painting GB ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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