riffraff Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I need some help with the colour of a Mk2 Argus. I can't find what was used on the bottom half of the plane. If anyone could help, that would be great. Cheers, Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill-TGH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 http://canadairargus.blogspot.com/ a quick look didn't show any specific colour references, but its a darn cool site Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill-TGH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal9...cullion/00.shtm white over natural metal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill-TGH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 http://www.canmilair.com/products.asp?cat=95 over all natural metal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill-TGH Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 http://www.gmam.ca/argus_refinishing.htm the Greenwood museum could probably tell you what they used to repaint their bird... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Bratton Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 From the Canadian Colour Guide at the IPMS Buzz Buerling site it's Grey 201-103. When this colour weathered, 'the green tint was the first thing to go' - thus resulting in a more bluish-grey appearence..'. There are two ways to replicate this colour. Tamyia acrylic's XF-12 (IJN Grey) is a very good 'slightly weathered' 501-109 OR you can mix RAF 'Sky' and FS35237, approximately 50/50. Examples of it's use are: the lower surfaces of the CC-129 Dakota, CP-107 Argus and the initial CP-140 scheme, the overall colour of the post unification CP-121 Tracker & the CH-124A Sea King, plus the wing underside on non-camouflaged CF-104. Although the overall colour of HMC surface warships, compare this shade with the 501-109 in the Maritime colour section. Cheers, Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 I have this paint mix and I believe I got it from the old Argus Hobby Shop in Winnipeg; all Humbrol colours #2 Gloss Emerald Green----2 drops #15 Gloss Midnight Blue----2 drops #22 Gloss White------------85 drops #40 Gloss Light Grey-------60 drops it also says for larger A/C--Argus/Aurora---you will need 8-10 times the amount --for smaller A/C--Tracker Sea King---you need 3-5 times the amount Cheers, Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riffraff Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 Thanks for the help guys, looks like I am going to have to earn this one, instead of just opening a tin. Cheers, Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Have a look here before getting out the wife's blender; http://www.resinshipyard.com/pages/paint.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) Very helpful. Thanks! BTW, Neil Gaunt of Transport Wings (UK) has announced a 1/72 CP-107 Argus conversion for the recently released Mach 2 1/72 Bristol Britannia. Now we just need some decals! R/ Dutch Edited March 20, 2019 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 All the Argus aircraft I saw in the 70s had the White over Gray finish. The undernose radome was shiny black. I think the gray was similar to ADC Gray, although the Gray used on the Canadian F-101s may be the same color. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Don, the Canadian MARPAT grey as seen on their Sea King, Tracker, Neptune, Argus, and early Aurora colour schemes was not ADC or Voodoo grey. It had a distinct blueish-green hue to it. Follow the mixing plan above by Snowbird 3. Although, many, many moons ago I broke the rule and used whatever lt grey the model shop had to make my own CP-140 Aurora. Edited November 9, 2018 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Now this guy is a truly great modeler! 1/72 CP-107 from a Heller DC-6 & Academy B-29. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 1:51 PM, Dutch said: Don, the Canadian MARPAT grey as seen on their Sea King, Tracker, Neptune, Argus, and early Aurora colour schemes was not ADC or Voodoo grey. It had a distinct blueish-green hue to it. Follow the mixing plan above by Snowbird 3. Although, many, many moons ago I broke the rule and used whatever lt grey the model shop had to make my own CP-140 Aurora. Now that you mention it, I do remember that odd greenish-blue color. It always amazed me the ASW work those guys could do in the 1970s with that old platform with old electronics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 12/27/2010 at 7:55 PM, riffraff said: Thanks for the help guys, looks like I am going to have to earn this one, instead of just opening a tin. Cheers, Lee Lee, Did you ever start building / finish your Argus? Would love to share ideas and pics. K/r, Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 10/31/2018 at 12:47 PM, Dutch said: Very helpful. Thanks! BTW, Neil Gaunt of Transport Wings (UK) has announced a 1/72 CP-107 Argus conversion for the recently released Mach 2 1/72 Bristol Britannia. Now we just need some decals! R/ Dutch Decals are available through Belcher Bits, they are working together on this. http://www.belcherbits.com/images/decals/bd34combo.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Scooby, Yes I have not mentioned the Belcher Bits decals which have been available since January 2020. Thanks for keeping me straight. K/r, Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 7:35 AM, Dutch said: Scooby, Yes I have not mentioned the Belcher Bits decals which have been available since January 2020. Thanks for keeping me straight. K/r, Dutch The conversion set is complete and has shipped to Hannants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Woohoo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 And the AIM-Transport Wings CP-107 Argus conversion sets (main fuselage & engines, and bomb bays) were made in very limited numbers and have sold out in a few weeks late last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Arsenault Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 If anyone is interested to discuss the Argus, the blog was mine. The aircraft were originally bare metal. They were corroding too quickly so by about 1960 they were painted a light Blue grey. By late 1960s they were painted FS 501-109 blue grey. You can reach me at planesandtrains@gmail.com if interested. I just ordered 3 Mach 2 Brittanias but I can't fine the AIM conversion kits (of course...late to the party). I sent AIM an e-mail. We will see what happens. For the interested, I have illustrated the Argus book by Baker/Campbell too. Cheers! Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 8:22 PM, Rob Arsenault said: By late 1960s they were painted FS 501-109 blue grey. You can omit the ‘FS’, just 501-109, a very elusive colour but described well in the previous comments. cheers, Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Tony, That hobby shop would have been Argus Hobbies near the base. It's no longer around. Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 12 hours ago, Brad-M said: Tony, That hobby shop would have been Argus Hobbies near the base. It's no longer around. Brad my post was from 2010, and I think even then it was history for a while. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 9:22 PM, Rob Arsenault said: If anyone is interested to discuss the Argus, the blog was mine. The aircraft were originally bare metal. They were corroding too quickly so by about 1960 they were painted a light Blue grey. By late 1960s they were painted FS 501-109 blue grey. You can reach me at planesandtrains@gmail.com if interested. I just ordered 3 Mach 2 Brittanias but I can't fine the AIM conversion kits (of course...late to the party). I sent AIM an e-mail. We will see what happens. For the interested, I have illustrated the Argus book by Baker/Campbell too. Cheers! Rob The National Film Board has a film on the development and construction of the first Argus aircraft. I can get it free on my smart TV, rather old film but great footage and information on the first aircraft coming off the production line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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