dmk0210 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 That thing looks like a cross between the F-22 and F-23. Doesn't that seem a little odd since most of China's experience was with Soviet designs? Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye's Hobbies Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 This looks more as if it were a fight bomber than a pure aerial fighter to compete against the F-22 or other modern western fighters. Given China's need to export, this might be a stealthy strike aircraft which many of their military customer countries may want to purchase. Link to post Share on other sites
Big Nick Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Someone out there in Beijing is quietly giggling to themselves as the entire aviation community of the Western world goes nutty speculating over grainy pictures of a strange looking aircraft!! Wouldn't we all have egg on our faces if it turned out to be a prop for a new movie?! On a serious note, when did China first seriously start designing their non-Soviet fighter jets to match the West? Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Fleming Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Someone out there in Beijing is quietly giggling to themselves as the entire aviation community of the Western world goes nutty speculating over grainy pictures of a strange looking aircraft!! Wouldn't we all have egg on our faces if it turned out to be a prop for a new movie?! On a serious note, when did China first seriously start designing their non-Soviet fighter jets to match the West? 20 years ago, with the J-10 Link to post Share on other sites
Quailane Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Those tails look really familiar...as in F-117 familiar..Rob I was thinking the exact same thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Maker Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Just out of curiosity, why does a Chinese fighter have big Russian stars on the tail? Link to post Share on other sites
4scourge7 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Just out of curiosity, why does a Chinese fighter have big Russian stars on the tail? Not so much a `big Russian star` as a `big Chinese star`. http://www.china-defense-mashup.com/wp-con...mg__dsc4497.jpg Cheers, Ian Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) Just out of curiosity, why does a Chinese fighter have big Russian stars on the tail? Why does red star = russian star? It is PLA star. For example: http://www.airliners.net/photo/China---Air...-7GB/1684040/L/ Today it made high speed taxiing test, almost exactly one year after PAK FA. Edited December 28, 2010 by Berkut Link to post Share on other sites
Maker Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Thanks. I only recalled seeing it with the Chinese stars and bars. Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Thanks. I only recalled seeing it with the Chinese stars and bars. No problem. One more pic, although there is other new ones. Someone is obviously taking high res shots... Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Wow, nice pics. Rob Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) This thing really seems to match pretty well a publicly released artist rendering.... And again, those tails are almost identical to those used on the F-117 (guess they went with what they know how to do best, copy others' work) Rob Edited December 28, 2010 by TOPGUN Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 That rendering was done right after the first pictures started to leak. And yes, leak, because i believe someone is with purpose steering the leak. If they didn't want pictures to be posted, they would have been deleted in no time... ;) Link to post Share on other sites
galileo1 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 That rendering was done right after the first pictures started to leak. And yes, leak, because i believe someone is with purpose steering the leak. If they didn't want pictures to be posted, they would have been deleted in no time... ;) Interesting. Didn't know the rendering was done after the leaked pics came out. Rob Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) Interesting. Didn't know the rendering was done after the leaked pics came out.Rob Another one. ;) http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__rQoK9r_ycs/TRiR...39662_19988.jpg And full version of the one posted by you, since i think cropping a pic to take away signature of the artist is lame. (i am not implying it was you) PS: My info and pics are so far from SP forum. Edited December 28, 2010 by Berkut Link to post Share on other sites
Litvyak Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 (guess they went with what they know how to do best, copy others' work) That's how almost all innovation works... take what's proven functional/effective/useful, and build on that. Reinvention of the wheel is counterproductive. Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 (edited) no... So does anybody know for sure if it is real or a moke up or what? I mean the F-23 was a real jet that flew... but where is it now! Edited December 28, 2010 by ElectroSoldier Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 no...So does anybody know for sure if it is real or a moke up or what? I mean the F-23 was a real jet that flew... but where is it now! There were two YF-23s built, one is at the USAF Museum and the other I believe is at the Northrop Museum in Southern California ... It looks like this J-XX is real to me .... Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I dont the fact that it is real.... same as I have no doubt the F-23 is real... But the F-23 isnt a service aircraft is it. and it never will be... Is this Chinese jet the lastest in a line of "maybe" jets? or it is what will be? Oh and the red star is Soviet, no Russian... it represents the Soviet ideal Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Mr. Song, when are we going to hear from you about this? Front look is great, from side not that much. I want to see a comparison drawing among F-22, PAK-FA and J-XX :D who knows maybe in 5-6 years, we might see all three in Paris :unsure: Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 I dont the fact that it is real.... same as I have no doubt the F-23 is real...But the F-23 isnt a service aircraft is it. and it never will be... Is this Chinese jet the lastest in a line of "maybe" jets? or it is what will be? Oh and the red star is Soviet, no Russian... it represents the Soviet ideal Oh, well you can put the X-32 and Lavi in that same boat ... I'm not sure if China is supposed to have a fly-off between two competing designs or if this was selected over the other design already and this goes alone now into development ... Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Quailane Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Oh, well you can put the X-32 and Lavi in that same boat ... I'm not sure if China is supposed to have a fly-off between two competing designs or if this was selected over the other design already and this goes alone now into development ... Gregg This could also be an experimental aircraft never intended for serial production and used to test new designs, like Have Blue. Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of twin tail Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I am proud of my country :wub: Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I am proud of my country :wub: And you have every right to be proud. China has a rich history going back thousands of years and a rich culture full of tradition. It will be interesting to see what China becomes in 20 more years. Link to post Share on other sites
Litvyak Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 ^^ Indeed so. And add to that the progress China's been making over the last 20 years, it's definitely something to be proud of. Link to post Share on other sites
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