DAKfreak Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 After using tamiya extra thin cement (with a mask/open windows) my lungs are feeling slightly achey. Its an obvious thing that breathing in cement causes respiratory problems, but is this long lasting, and will the remains of cement in the lungs be able to cause cancer to anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miccara Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) After using tamiya extra thin cement (with a mask/open windows) my lungs are feeling slightly achey. Its an obvious thing that breathing in cement causes respiratory problems, but is this long lasting, and will the remains of cement in the lungs be able to cause cancer to anyone? The fact is, this hobby is loaded with toxic stuff. Paint, glues, even the model plastic itself. If you're suffering effects described while using some Tamiya Thin - with a mask - with open windows, then see a doctor. You may not be cut out for this hobby. Edited January 11, 2011 by Miccara Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorsten Wieking Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I would visit a doctor just to be on the safe side. So far, I have never heard of anything causing pain in the lungs. Nausea, headaches yes, but pain/ache in the lungs? Did you airbrush without a mask or sand resin? Cheers Thorsten Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelmkr Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 After using tamiya extra thin cement (with a mask/open windows) my lungs are feeling slightly achey. Its an obvious thing that breathing in cement causes respiratory problems, but is this long lasting, and will the remains of cement in the lungs be able to cause cancer to anyone? Your question would be better answered by a medical doctor, rather than seeking conjecture and opinion from us. Bring along the product and have a copy of the WHIMIS information as well (every supplier of chemical products in North America MUST, by law, provide this info sheet). It is apparent that you have a particular chemical sensitivity to this product (and potentially others). I can only say that any fumes coming off of a small bottle of liquid cement have never caused me any issues. HTH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 The damage from vapors (unless the vapors themselves are caustic) is not generally done in the lungs. The toxins that are vaporized in the air are able to enter the bloodstream via the lungs, where they go systemic and do their damage in the other organs. That's the reason you can get high from fumes - they go to your brain. The feeling in your lungs is from the irritation of the chemicals, and will probably subside in a day or so. You could go to a doctor, but there's nothing they're going to be able to do about it. You simply have to let the body heal itself. In the meantime, take this as a lesson - wear a respirator mask! The kind with activated carbon filtration that fits tightly against your face. Is it a pain to use one? Yep, absolutely. Is this (or any) hobby worth killing yourself over? Not in my estimation. J (RN) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I can only say that any fumes coming off of a small bottle of liquid cement have never caused me any issues. ... that you know of, yet. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kostucha Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) ...In the meantime, take this as a lesson - wear a respirator mask! The kind with activated carbon filtration that fits tightly against your face. Is it a pain to use one? Yep, absolutely. Is this (or any) hobby worth killing yourself over? Not in my estimation.J (RN) The man speaks the truth! I'm currently living in a PMQ, winter time in Winnipeg, etc... just like veryone else who's in the cold this time of year - it can be a real pain, and not wanting to have the window open and turn my basement into a freezer, the lengths one goes to are sometimes a real PITA. Problem is, as comphy as my work space is, and it is, I work just next to the fresh air intake for the furnace. Not wanting to be a danger to myself or my son who is sleeping while I'm working, I really find myself limiting the work to what I do inside. Accelerator for the CA glue, painting, thinners, and other verious fume causing jobs are now done outside. Yep... I'll go outside, freeze while quickly applying whatever stuff it is I'm applying, then put it in the bathroom and let it all sit there and dry while I have the vent going (which sucks air outside)... and it stays on until you can't smell the stuff anymore. Is it a pain? Yep. Especially when wearing a mask. But until construction of the paint booth/ventilation booth is complete, that's what I'm doing. Other times I'll dawn on my (laugh if you will) military issued ballistic glasses. They offer good all around visibility, are a little uncomfortable, but I refuse to allow another piece of plasic hit me in the eye while working on plastic. Mute point, but still, precautions are precautions right? I used to be stupid. I would literally work on models to a point where I would finish and when I would blow my nose, the kleenex would end up catching something the same colour as what I was painting. Eyes getting irritated from CA and other fumes, enamel paints being sprayed in dead air with little to no chance of ventilation, leaving enamel paint on my skin (well, letting it get there in the first place) - if you look at some of the shots of the Stuka work early on and see the colour of my hands/fingers, well, I still shake my head at that. Seems once my son was born and I seriously got back into the working phase, something kicked me in the head and caused me to smarten up. Damaga I've done to myself is what it is, all I can do is prevent it from happening any further. I think having the little guy in the house, and not wanting him to feel the ill effects made me put an end to causing any more. It's not the one or two times that he may come in contact with the stuff, its the limited yet continuous exposure he would have had over the years that I want to avoid. Is it being paranoid? Maybe. Will he or I come in contact with other things that could cause the same damage? Yes. But I wont allow it to be a direct result of a hobby that is intended to be a whole heck of a lot of fun. Id rather leave a session with the imprints of a mask on my face that'll go away after a shot time, than hack up a lung. (As a side note, I've also quit smoking... not drinking though). As for your lung pain, same as what the others have said - if it continues, get it looked at for sure. But please, get yourself set up taking your health into consideration first and foremost - a little preventative measure will certainly help in the loooong run. Just my $0.02. Mark. Edited January 11, 2011 by Kostucha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelmkr Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 ... that you know of, yet.J Potentially true for anyone in this hobby, but I'm in my mid 40's, been building since I was 7, and have always taken reasonable precautions with chemicals (vetilated room, fume hood with fan on, container caps off only when in use, etc.). Everyone has different reactions and sensitivities to chemical compounds. It's the reason why one person can smoke and drink all their life and live into their 90's only dying from old age, where someone else may succumb to cancer and liver disease by thier 30's... everyone is built different. That said, no one should recommend intentionally inhaling chemicals if it can be avoided. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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