Dave Williams Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 There seem to be a few personas that allowed to be on this board. First we have to put up with “Michael Bay†and now we have “Charlie Sheenâ€. They seem to contribute nothing to this board except make troll-like comments in the guise of their personas. I think there was once a forum rule against the use of aliases, but it looks that’s been dropped. It’s disappointing to me that people who were very knowledgeable and contributed a lot to this board are no longer here, but these other people are allowed to stay. Just my two cents. I’m sure MB, CS, or perhaps Moai Vincent or randomcatfacts will be along soon with some useless comment, while hiding behind their alias. Link to post Share on other sites
CorsairMan Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 As an aside... I love randomcatfacts. This is a modeling site. While it can be a place to get or publish related information - its a plastic model site! Damn, if we can't have fun once in a while, this place might turn into work! Link to post Share on other sites
loftycomfort Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Whatever the mods decide to do with the personas, please please please please please keep RandomCatFacts around. If he/she needs to be evicted, I'd be happy to adopt him. haha. Terry Link to post Share on other sites
graves_09 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) As an aside... I love randomcatfacts.This is a modeling site. While it can be a place to get or publish related information - its a plastic model site! Damn, if we can't have fun once in a while, this place might turn into work! Thats all well and good, but keep it in the test post clubhouse forum. It is annoying to have random comments by profiles who think they are funny added to threads about models or other serious topics. Edited March 7, 2011 by graves_09 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Being able to have multiple personas is what makes me such a good actress. My hubby Brad is pretty good at it too. Plus, those poor kids in Africa all like me in my Lara Croft role. ....and only 8 minutes before one of the posers shows up. Have to admit, I didn't think it would be this fast. Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Please Modz! BAN THEM ALL!!! (maybe excepted cat facts... who never does agressive comments...) Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 God.... this is a modeling forum, a bit of humor isn't a bad thing. If you really can't handle a silly post from one of these guys (gals?) and need them banned so you can enjoy your ARC experience, you probably have larger issues. What I typically do is ignore threads / posts that I find to be a waste of my time. This thread is being added to that list, effective now. Link to post Share on other sites
thegoodsgt Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 If you click My Controls at the top of the page, you can hide posts from selected users. Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I may be speaking out of turn here and completely putting words or thoughts into Dave's intent, BUT I think his point was more about other's being banned for, at times, trivial things while some that are apparently posting under an "against the rules" name are allowed to contiue. I could be wrong and maybe those posts actually do irritate him. But I suspect that's not what the point is. Please forgive me if I'm wrong here Dave. I for one personally couldn't care less...but do find it an interesting observation. Bill Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 BUT I think his point was more about other's being banned for, at times, trivial things... I suspect the mods would take issue with the statement that they ban people for trivial things. Regards, Murph Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 God.... this is a modeling forum, a bit of humor isn't a bad thing. If you really can't handle a silly post from one of these guys (gals?) and need them banned so you can enjoy your ARC experience, you probably have larger issues. What I typically do is ignore threads / posts that I find to be a waste of my time. This thread is being added to that list, effective now. ...i won't comment that much since you obviously try to start some flame here... but i don't agree with you. it is annoying as having someone who have written insanity in the newspaper or in a book taken a the library... off topic should be kept in the GD forum and TPC Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I like these personas popping up once in a while for fun. I don't see them doing much harm and honestly give me a good much-needed laugh. As long as they keep to the General and Test-Post Clubhouse Forums on subjects that are off-topic anyhow, I don't see a conflict. Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 problem is that they caused several useful and interesting threads get locked up... Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I like these personas popping up once in a while for fun. I don't see them doing much harm and honestly give me a good much-needed laugh. As long as they keep to the General and Test-Post Clubhouse Forums on subjects that are off-topic anyhow, I don't see a conflict. sadly they just can't behave themselves yesterday a topic on the pak fa was blocked in the research corner forum cos of flame war started by insults done by thoses trolls (or at least "michael bay") they don't just pop in a while... they pop on most of the topics that interrested me... that's really annoying and such a bore! please, again, keep it for the GD and the TPC! (not in the jet modelling forum!) i'm not against humor i'm against users that uses troll to tell what they wouldn't dare to say otherly. i'm not a troll, i'm a real personne, with a name, a place where i lived, age... all available to other ARCmembers i'm here, honnestly, with friendly intentions toward every other members, whatever their interrests are (or where they came from...) Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 problem is that they caused several useful and interesting threads get locked up... exactly what i was saying. Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Actually, it’s mostly that they are annoying, unfunny, and contribute nothing to this board. They are made up aliases just for the purpose of dropping into threads with some useless comment, while the vast majority of the posters here come to discuss models and other things in a mostly serious manner. I don’t have a problem with a little light humor now and then, but people pretending to be someone else, especially train wrecks like Charlie Sheen, don’t belong on the normal forums IMHO. How long before Lindsay Lohan shows up as a member (within a few hours, I’d wager). You can make a point that randomcatfacts is OK, but are any of Charlie Sheen’s or Michael Bay’s comments funny or useful? I guess I don’t see it. I understand that not everyone contributes to the same level, but it seems to me that if you join the forum and expect people to read your stuff, you should have something useful to offer up to the discussion instead of a made up persona. I wasn’t intending to dredge up who’s been banned, what they were banned for, or whether it was or was not justified. That’s done and in the past. I was just pointing out that it’s a little disappointing to me that people who contributed a lot are gone, for whatever reason, while these fake personas who contribute nothing are still here. Yes. I'm getting older and turning into an old fart. Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 i will add that, also, since political subjects are banned, because they always turns to flame war (as moderators claims) and, that, lots of people agree that they go on other forum when they wanted to discuss politics... why some of thoses jockers who hides behind trolls aren't just try to find humor forums where they can post... and greatly improve their humor!!!!! ...and also... humor is not universal! what you can find funny, may not been very funny for others. Link to post Share on other sites
Fishwelding Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 If you click My Controls at the top of the page, you can hide posts from selected users. Sounds like the solution to me. Honestly, if more people took this route generally, you might find the mods have less intervention. And after all, building models is merely entertainment. I'm not saving people's lives by building plastic toy jets. Link to post Share on other sites
niart17 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I suspect the mods would take issue with the statement that they ban people for trivial things. Regards, Murph I wasn't trying to argue one way or the other I was simply (and very wrongly apparently) saying what I THOUGHT Dave was talking about. I totally misread his post and appologize for that Dave. But I will say that if some would take issue with a very midly critical statement like that then perhaps they are a bit sensitive for a mod. I know it's not a public forum per-se and realize I have zero say in what rules are applied. But seriously, IF that gets their panties in a wad then perhaps they should have a moment of self reflection. BTW I'm one in the camp that at times find the silly banter from some of these multiple-personality disguise post rather funny. So either way is fine by me. Bill Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) Personally, I find them amusing. I would suggest banning only in cases of when they troll. EDIT: I read the PAK-FA thread. While the persona's stirred the pot, they were not the only ones contributing to the thread demise. Edited March 7, 2011 by jwest21 Link to post Share on other sites
Skyraider Maniac Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Actually, it’s mostly that they are annoying, unfunny, and contribute nothing to this board. They are made up aliases just for the purpose of dropping into threads with some useless comment, while the vast majority of the posters here come to discuss models and other things in a mostly serious manner. I don’t have a problem with a little light humor now and then, but people pretending to be someone else, especially train wrecks like Charlie Sheen, don’t belong on the normal forums IMHO. How long before Lindsay Lohan shows up as a member (within a few hours, I’d wager). You can make a point that randomcatfacts is OK, but are any of Charlie Sheen’s or Michael Bay’s comments funny or useful? I guess I don’t see it. I understand that not everyone contributes to the same level, but it seems to me that if you join the forum and expect people to read your stuff, you should have something useful to offer up to the discussion instead of a made up persona. I don't find it annoying myself - actually I find them pretty funny. As for locking up threads themselves, the vast majority of times they're just trying to lighten things up - like the Boeing vs. EADS thread that got locked - Mr Bay and that dude from Indiana Jones just made funny comments before that thread got locked (and not because of stuff they said - but others in serious conversation)..... And Mr Bay for one has contributed interesting articles from time to time in test post club house, unlike some of these other characters; I particularly liked the link to that Russian SUV with the whale...... Ill leave it at that... But by far I've enjoyed his. Can't say I like random cat facts - I find those annoying (quite possibly cause this is probably the one animal I can't stand, and yet am forced to live with against my will....and clean its stupid litter)..... The moai is pretty funny too. :P so I gotta say, can't necessarily agree with you - I think they contribute in a rather funny manner that takes some of the seriousness out of topics which should be more enjoyable, and a lot less heated. And if you think about it - they usually are saying something in character with their personality...... Link to post Share on other sites
Two Mikes Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I tend to shy away from topics like this and I do see your point Dave, however, I personally have just come to accept them as part of the "fabric" of ARC. Sort of like Dan's Monkey. They have just evolved into different characters. Link to post Share on other sites
strikeeagle801 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Personally, I say ban them ALL...they really don't have a reason to be here. Maoi, Charlie Sheen, RandomCatFacts...all of them. They don't do anything to futher this hobby or contribute anything useful here. BUT... Here's something to think about. In a way, everyone on here is a persona. Obviously, my given name is not StrikeEagle801...it's Aaron. By and large, I'm the same person on the 'Net that I am in real life...but I really don't have to be. In reality, we really could have Charlie Sheen here under some other name and not even know it. We all have our own personas that we perpetuate on the 'Net. For most of us I imagine, it is the same persona we have in real life. But again, it does not have to be. BUT... I think the difference is what we do here rather than who we say we are. I try the best I can to answer any question that comes up on the F-15E for example. It is my favorite plane, and the one I know the most about. I also have posted a few of my models on here, both built and in progress, as well as both asked for and given things that were needed. In regards to that, I try not to ask for anything that I would not/have not given myself, and try to "pay it forward" whenever I can. I've bought and sold in the Buy and Sell forums, and commented on people's models in the critique corner. I would consider myself an active member of of this community. I would NOT consider RandomCatFacts or any of these other personas floating around as active members of the community, and thus think they should be removed. Should there be a criteria as to what is considered an "active" member of the community, and should we ban people who don't live up to it?...No, we should not. However, there are some people that obviously should go. Aaron Link to post Share on other sites
McCoy Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I say ban obvious trolls but leave it with that. No bannin' for inactivity 'cos there's a lot of users who may visit just a couple of times per year or have been inactive for a longer period, maybe doin' time in the forces for their country n' such n' thus makin' 'em inactive for the time bein'. But one question, is it really allowed to have multiple accounts? My guess is that is the case in most of these cases... Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I am not a fan of these personas either as they are getting out of hand. One or two is one thing, but we are up to what, five now (that I have counted)? Even going back to the Dan's Mon-key persona from day one of ARC (presumably set up by SBARC himself or one of the other ARC founders), I never quite got the story behind it. While I chuckle sometimes when I read one of those posts, it still kind of goes over my head. I say get rid of them all, or restrict them to test post clubhouse only. Okay, so maybe it can be funny to have a light hearted persona posting in a thread, but for the most part a post from them GNDNs (Goes nowhere, does nothing) and it consumes bandwidth and takes up my time to read useless posts. If I want something humorous, I'll go to TPC or maybe read normal postings from people I've known online for years. But when I am reading a thread on a subject I like and something like this pops up, it gets VERY annoying and all things considered, with my current situation in life the last thing I need is annoyances from a place where I tend to come to unwind, to contribute and to get useful information. Link to post Share on other sites
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