Rick in Maine Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 $3.63 regular in Downeast Maine, higher at the top of the state. Rick in Maine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Southeastern Wisconsin, Racine area - $3.669/gal. Right up the butt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
muswp1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I just refueled at $3.59 and there are other stations on my way home from work ranging from $3.64-$3.89. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Just put $71 dollars at $1.22 L. Last week in the states the same amount of fuel cost me $40. And our dollar is still worth MORE then the American dollar and we produce OUR OWN gas!!!!!! Still a better deal the Europe of course. Would not be so bad if I did not have to drive 200km every day due to the government closing my work site 7 years ago. BUT!!!!! just to be nice the government told us they are also closing MY CURRENT WORK site next year!!!! Thats when I get to drive 240km a day. Unless I decide to cost someone else their job............ Looks like it sucks to be the guy with less then 21 years service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swedeinsiam Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Here in Thailand the gas prices are still decent compared to Europe but a fortune to Thai’s who make around $200/month in average. 91 Gasohol (gasoline/alcohol mix) is 34.94 Baht/liter today which is US$1.15 ($4.40/gallon). 91 Gasoline is 42.34 Baht/liter = US$1.39 ($5.28/gallon). Diesel is subsidized by the government and cost 30 baht/liter = US$0.99 ($3.80/gallon). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richter111 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 $3.59 in Superior Wisconsin $3.54 over in Duluth Minnesota Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mchuray Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Here in Baton Rouge, LA was $3.33 per gal. on Monday, Today it went to $3.45. Was $2.37 before the mid-east blew up. Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SinisterVampire319 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Here in Santa Rosa, Kalifornia it's hovering around 4.00 bucks. One cheap station it's 3.89. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cyrus Tan Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Here in Santa Rosa, Kalifornia it's hovering around 4.00 bucks. One cheap station it's 3.89. [/quoteYup... same here. $3.89/Gal is considered cheap in So Cal. Average price at Chevron, Shell, 76 etc is around $4.00+/ Gal. It gets even better... I heard that it may reach $5.00/Gal by summer time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Les / Creative Edge Photo Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Here's the thing: oil is a finite resource. As more and more people all over the world use more and more of it, the price *is* going to continue to go up, and probably faster than it has before. China is using oil much faster than they were even three or five years ago. Most of the US seems ignorant of the whole idea that you don't *need* a gigantic SUV to cart your kids to soccer practice, so we keep using more and more too. I think it's a situation where you'd better get used to it, 'cause it's as good as it's gonna be in your lifetime right this very day.J PS: The local price is kind of irrelevant. Every locale has totally different pricing, taxes, etc. It's really apples vs. oranges. In places where fuel is extremely expensive by the standards of another place, other factors come into play, like relative income, distances between places, etc, etc, etc. Just an FYI. Some people including some said to be experts believe in "a biotic oil" That is oil is abundant deep in the Earth's crust and is constantly replenishing itself.... JUST SAYING! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedIndian Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) nevermind Edited March 31, 2011 by RedIndian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Texan Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Now all we need is that macho tough guy ranting about snake oil saleman, plus a randomcatfacts comment, and we'll be ready to rock n roll. Hope you weren't referring to me. If you were, I might just have something to say about it! $3.39 in Amarillo for gas. As for the price of gas in places around the world and why its so much higher, the answer is simple and you already know why. Taxes! The taxes your governments put on gas is incredulous to say the least! I feel bad for you folks, I really do. Your mass transportation systems are way better than ours, but you don't have to drive the distances like we do over here in the states. Hydrogen powered vehicles guys, that's really the answer and the technology is here and now. Bio fuels don't cut it. They cost more to produce, you get less miles per gallon, which means you use more of it. Doesn't matter whether its ethanol or bio diesel. No, bio fuels aren't the answer at all and are a waste of time and money. Also, electric isn't the answer either. Might be some day, but not now. The technology just isn't there yet. Its also more hazardous to the environment than gasoline is! Hydrogen is the answer if you're looking for clean power and not driving a golf cart! Man never ceases to amaze me in his arrogance! Guys, we are not making the earth "sick". Even if we had a full blown nuclear war where everybody shot off everything, the earth would still be here and recover. Seems like the only snake oil salesmen around are the ones pushing this junk to begin with. Besides, as of December 21, 2012, we ain't gonna be around here anymore due to the Mayan prophecy any way! La vida loca, amigos! Might as well live large and go out in style, right? LOL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0M4ever Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 £1.33 a litre for unleaded at the moment. So $8.09 a gallon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 $1.22 at the big boys, Petro Can't, E$$o, and $$$$hell, but about $1.19 / $1.20 at the little guys, the ones I go to!!!! Has any other Canuck noticed how Petro Can't is always $.01 to $.03 higher than all the rest??? Probably so they can afford to give away points to their members and CAA members!?!??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kg4kpg Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Just hit $3.41 this week in my neighborhood. Spoke too soon, up another 4 cents from yesterday to $3.45. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kopfjaeger Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 bout a buck fifty a litre. and yeah.... people who drive 4wd's in the city? pfffttt w*nkers. i sit there and listen to people whinge bout how much it costs to fill thier cages up and laugh. 20 bucks a week gets me to and from work and round town. i love my engine cycle.( N.B. MOTORS are electric.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Hi guys, In Namibia US$1.22 per litre 95 octane. Regards Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swedeinsiam Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 The Venezuelan guys who work with me say that a bottle of water is more expensive than a full tank of gas over there. Don’t know the price but sounds good to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pastafarian Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Next car for me is going to be electric (I don't really have to drive very much). About 25% of that decision is environmental, 75% comes from not wanting to mess with gas prices. It's very irritating to me that a goofy revolution in Libya or somewhere else instantly rockets up the price (I'm fairly understanding that as use gradually increases, the price will go up). How we gonna power my electric car? Nuclear power. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loftycomfort Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Hydrogen powered vehicles guys, that's really the answer and the technology is here and now. Bio fuels don't cut it. They cost more to produce, you get less miles per gallon, which means you use more of it. Doesn't matter whether its ethanol or bio diesel. No, bio fuels aren't the answer at all and are a waste of time and money. Also, electric isn't the answer either. Might be some day, but not now. The technology just isn't there yet. Its also more hazardous to the environment than gasoline is! Hydrogen is the answer if you're looking for clean power and not driving a golf cart! yeah I was subtlely poking fun at you there. Well, frankly I don't know enough about hydrogen power to comment. But I do agree that some types of biofuels won't cut it - we'd merely be shifting the problem from an energy crisis to a food shortage crisis. Other forms of biofuels (algae comes to mind) show promises, but they're nowhere near ready yet. Electric is not the perfect answer, but it's the best near term solution we have now. Obviously, using power from a coal-burning plant to charge a hybrid car's battery isn't exactly "clean", but my best guess is it's still cleaner than a conventional gasoline car: combustion engines are notoriously bad at translating energy stored in gasoline to kinetic energy (IIRC, it's in the neighbourhood of only using ~15% of the gasoline's chemical energy, the rest all goes to heat, hence wasted). Assuming the chain of a "dirty powerplant -> electrical outlet -> hybrid car battery -> kinetic energy" wastes less energy, then it'd still be a better solution. Although I also have to acknowledge that the energy footprint of manufacturing hybrid car batteries from "rare earths" should also be put into the calculation. I suspect it's not very green either, but I doubt car makers will share this dirty little secret with us. Terry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Texan Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 yeah I was subtlely poking fun at you there.Well, frankly I don't know enough about hydrogen power to comment. But I do agree that some types of biofuels won't cut it - we'd merely be shifting the problem from an energy crisis to a food shortage crisis. Other forms of biofuels (algae comes to mind) show promises, but they're nowhere near ready yet. Electric is not the perfect answer, but it's the best near term solution we have now. Obviously, using power from a coal-burning plant to charge a hybrid car's battery isn't exactly "clean", but my best guess is it's still cleaner than a conventional gasoline car: combustion engines are notoriously bad at translating energy stored in gasoline to kinetic energy (IIRC, it's in the neighbourhood of only using ~15% of the gasoline's chemical energy, the rest all goes to heat, hence wasted). Assuming the chain of a "dirty powerplant -> electrical outlet -> hybrid car battery -> kinetic energy" wastes less energy, then it'd still be a better solution. Although I also have to acknowledge that the energy footprint of manufacturing hybrid car batteries from "rare earths" should also be put into the calculation. I suspect it's not very green either, but I doubt car makers will share this dirty little secret with us. Terry Hydrogen powered vehicles solves so many problems on so many levels and has been proven to be more than viable. Existing vehicles can be retrofitted and of course new vehicles made, all without sacrificing power and size. Hydrogen can be easily manufactured as well. Why isn't this pushed? Politics and big business, oil that is, that's why. Plain and simple. Battery powered vehicles are inefficient at this point. Also, like I said, they're more enviornmentally hazardous. When a battery is no good in a vehicle, it has to be disposed off, that costs a lot of money. You can't just put them land fills either. They also cost about the price of a gasoline engine to replace. They do not produce the speed or torque that is needed as well. Yes, they're getting better, but not there yet. Hydrogen is way more efficient, emits no pollution, produces the speed and torque necessary, presents no environmental hazard of any kind. All of the world's leading car makers have made these and improved on the designs of them. We all complain and worry about the Middle East and what's going on now. Just imagine for a second, that if we didn't need any of that oil any longer what the ramifications would be...oil would drop in value over night to $10 bucks or less a barrel! All of those Middle Eastern countries would be in flames like they are now because the wealth would be gone! China would lose big time because of all the investments they made in purchasing the world's oil like they have. Oil companies around the globe would lose so much wealth it isn't funny. We have been literally propping up the Middle East in buying their oil! We've been keeping them afloat! The oil companies are raking in bajillions, they aren't going to let something like hydrogen powered vehicles be their death nail. They are the most powerful lobbyists there are, and they own a lot of politicians around the world, conservative, liberal, and socialists alike. They will make the last dime they can squeeze out of us. It's a darn shame all around! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0M4ever Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Hydrogen is quite difficult to store though, it has to be kept at very, very low temperatures because the atom size is so small it can easily escape from containers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Texan Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Hydrogen is quite difficult to store though, it has to be kept at very, very low temperatures because the atom size is so small it can easily escape from containers. Nope, that's already been worked out as well. There are two different aspects that car makers have done. BMW does the cold power version like you mention, keeping the hydrogen at low temperatures. The Americans and the Japanese have done this without having to keep the unit at low temperatures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aerofan Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 ........Besides, as of December 21, 2012, we ain't gonna be around here anymore due to the Mayan prophecy any way! La vida loca, amigos! Might as well live large and go out in style, right? LOL! Right on brother!. Better to party it up before the big day. Seriously, I didn't mean to open a can of worms on this as I just wanted to know what the price is like around the world. I basically know what it is like in Canada and the US. However, some of the replies about different technologgy is quite interesting. Big Texan, I was just wonder when you mention about hydrogen are you talking about fuel cells or converting the gas engine into a hyrdogen burning engine. Forgive me it was pointed out somewhere. Also do you think that a stirling engine could be used as a generator to power an electric motor and drive train? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattC Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Big Texan is right on this one, we built our whole house of cards on a bed of oil, and the powers that be are not easily going to let someone start pulling that down. Governments have next to no say or influence on this, and all the green talking and promises won't make a fig of difference. Hydrogen power is pretty much the only route out, but when you have a situation where companies are paid NOT to invest in it, its hard to know which buttons are going to be pushed hard enough to make a difference. The only thing, and I hate to tempt fate here, that is going to make any sort of difference will be when the easy supply routes become difficult ones, and when the people with the deepest pockets start seeing the law of diminishing returns taking effect. I don't buy in to biofuels or electric vehicles, and I am a "green" type of person, they are alternatives certainly, and from an energy security point of view, potentially worthwhile, but cleaner? Not on your nelly. Apart from which, it is potentially possible to make hydrogen powered aircraft and shipping, which just isn't the case for practicality with electricity. And whichever bright spark thought tearing up forests and agricultural land to plant a monoculture of biomass with virtually zero wildlife value, only to tear it all up and burn it was a good idea. Well. Grrr. My biggest problem with all of this is that a good percentage of people who stand on soap boxes spouting vitriol about the environment have next to no knowledge or expertise in the subject, nor do they wish to, politicians want votes, companies want profits, and there is absolutely nothing else driving this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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