philo426 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Here it is.A great deal of work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 :D, great work philo. good to see this one built as I have one in the stash too. It'll be quite a while before mine gets built though. , Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Thanks! I plan on tracking down another kit and do the silver version! I nick-named it the "Strut and Brace Complication!"Here is a rear view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 :unsure:, G'day philo, Thank you for showing us your HP.42 model. My Dad saw at least one of these as well as even more ancient Vickers Valentias at Helwan during his time in Egypt. It's hard for us today to think that such anacronisms were still in use at that time. He also saw Bristol Bombays and HP Harrows and Sparrows inuse as transports and air ambulances. He also saw DH.86s used by the RAAF's No.1 Air Ambulance Unit. , Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) Yes and for the time they had a remarkable safety record.Most were damaged by storms while on the ground (which were repaired and put back into service).A very dependable aircraft with a long range! Edited April 19, 2011 by philo426 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DDC Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Great work! Good on you for actually getting the brute finished! Looking foward to seeing a Silver one sitting next to her Denzil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 I just have to find another kit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tnuag Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 We have the vacform moulds and masters for new metal parts - perhaps we should put it into production! Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted April 21, 2011 Author Share Posted April 21, 2011 If it is a reasonable cost I may buy one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tnuag Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 If it is a reasonable cost I may buy one! It depends on what you term reasonable. Remember that polystyrene and white metal havea all trebled or quadrupled in price in the last few years. Neil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted April 22, 2011 Author Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) Yes and since you are in the UK the exchange rate will probably cause difficulties also.I may have to try to find an original Contrail kit in the US to make it economically feasible!It is not a super high priority for me just something I would do if the price was right. Edited April 22, 2011 by philo426 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lucien Harpress Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I never saw the camo scheme before. Very nice job! The HP-42 is on the list of things I'd like to build eventually. Sadly, it's quite far down the list. Guess I'll just take a look at yours, instead! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 THanks! Where have you neen Lucien?Haven't seen any posts from you on FSM inn ages! Any progress on the Spruce Goose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattC Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 I hesitate to mention it, because I can see that this is a really impressive build, and I for one would certainly not have the skills to pull it off, but given the reply by Neil about potentially putting this back into production, I felt I ought to. Now I don't know if this is an issue with the kit, but the dihedral on the lower wing isn't right. On the full size, the inner wing on the lower wing is at a fairly steep anhedral angle, such that the outer wing is more or less parallel with the upper, as seen on this pic; I really was reluctant to mention it, because in no way do I want to detract from your work here Phil, and I apologise for any offence in advance. Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Yes that is true!I was freaking out and wondering why the lower struts were too short(I used my compass as dividers to carefully cut them in accordance with the plans)!I discovered too late in the building process that I mounted the lower wings with way too much dihederal!I did not wish to break off the wings as I mounted them with brass tubing and feared I would severely damage the fuselage if I attempted to remove them!I was forced to glue extensions on the lower struts to mount the top wing.The results ,while inaccurate, were nevertheless a good learning expierence.if I am able to locate another of these kits I will be much more careful about how the lower wing is mounted!I will say that the wing structure is rock solid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattC Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I couldn't agree more Phil, and like I said, it doesn't detract from the excellent job you did of getting it all lined up and solid. But it looks as if the plans need some adjustment if someone is going to re-release the kit at some point. Can I ask how you did the strut attachment points on the wings? Do the struts have locating pins? If anyone is going to make this available again, my suggestion would be to include a printed jig pattern which could be glued onto a suitably sized cardboard box and cut out. That would make things easier for fumble-thumbs like me, as I would love to do one of these at some point. Thinking about it a little more, I'm tempted to suggest that it should be possible to redesign the wing mounting, such that the lower inner and upper inner (together with the lower wing nacelles) could be made as a complete unit, to be glued onto the top of the fuselage. That way, everything could be jigged up fairly easily, and once that unit was complete, it would serve as a reference for the rest of the build. Then, the outer wings could be attached using brass rod, with a couple of 1/16" ply wingribs slid into each wing half. Thus again, the upper and lower outer wings could be made up as a unit and slid onto the centre section. Or even made removable for transport. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lucien Harpress Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 THanks! Where have you neen Lucien?Haven't seen any posts from you on FSM inn ages! Any progress on the Spruce Goose? Yeah, I've pretty much migrated from FSM over to here and made ARC my "base of operations", as it were. My Spruce Goose is still sitting on my floor, in pieces, and it pretty much on permanent hiatus until further notice.. I've started a few other projects since then, and I currently have about 12 planes in various stages of completion, which include: -Vac Vickers Windsors -XB-36 Peacemaker -Zveno 7 (haven't touched that one in a while) -XF-85 Scratchbuild -SSW R.VIII Scratchbuild -He 111Z -Curtiss Sparrowhawk vacuform I'm real good at starting projects, but REALLY bad at finishing them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Did you have some problem on FSM or is the ARC more suited to your modeling posts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) Matt there are no locating points on the wings so you have to use the forward view to get an idea where they go.The engines do have small pips where the struts attach so they are helpful when drilling holes for the tapered struts.I devised a angle setter that made attaching the struts on the lower wings in parallel easier. Edited May 23, 2011 by philo426 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 I had to cammo the lower wings,struts and fuselage before attaching the upper wing.Much adjustment was necessary when it came time to epoxy the upper wing into place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lucien Harpress Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Did you have some problem on FSM or is the ARC more suited to your modeling posts? Naw. For a while I was posting in both places, but it just got to be too much. I was spending more and more time here and less time on FSM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Philo, That is very IMPESSIVE buld .I love the color scheme and I acn't wait to see you build another one... SUPER. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philo426 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 THanks Darth!I have to track one down at a good price so it may take a while! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck1945 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) Neil, Hope you see this ... :) I have the Contrail kit but would cheerfully buy another if it had updated detail parts. The originals from Contrail were pretty crude. Philo426, nice job! Edited May 27, 2011 by Chuck1945 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tnuag Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 (edited) New masters were created about 10 years ago for the metal parts, but never used - perhaps we will reissue it, but the vacform mouldings would be as the original on economic grounds. I will look at the metal masters again when I go into the workshop in the morning. Oh yes, we have the decals too! Neil Edited May 27, 2011 by tnuag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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