Osama is DEAD!

[Big Texan]

Yeah, because that will make friends for the US throughout the world, and help bring an end to terrorist attacks everywhere...

We don't have any friends in the Middle East but one...Israel! Lighten up a bit will ya! Let us savor the moment. Getting him wasn't going to stop the war on terror, just knocking their "symbolic" leader off! Proving, you can run and you can try to hide, but we will hunt you down like the vermin you are, and kill ya!

[wh1skea]

As an aside, would this person be eligible for the $25 million reward..?

Cheers,

Andre

Actually, from what I understand, it was doubled to $50 million back in 2007. But, like was mentioned earlier, they participants of the raid will probably never see a dime of it. If its distributed to anyone, it'll probably be the CIA's budget.

[TaiidanTomcat]

The next step will be to completely re-evaluate our relationship with Pakistan. It's a huge b*tch-slap to the Paki's that we didn't inform them in advance and flew a formation of helos across their country to perform this raid. Tell me how this guy could live in such a large compound in a city with such a huge military presence and not be detected.

I highly doubt the pakis are going to say anything about the incursion. how would that go? "Hey the next time we are harboring the world's most evil terrorist and you are going to come into our airspace could you be nice enough to tell us first?"

Right now all pakistan is doing is pretending to be the most surprised country in the world "OMG he was where? No way!? How did that happen?? Oh thanks for getting him! Wow how did that happen!?! Weird"

Also I can't stress this enough-- The "details" you are hearing could be completely false due to incompetant guess work by the media and deliberate misinformation to hide operational tactics. So as we jump to initial "he was using human shields/it was a predator/ he was asked to surrender" stuff may be disproven very soon. this is the initial reports folks.

You really believe that American SF in a hostile country raided a terrorist compound and "asked" anything? Have you seen a room clearance drill? If they speak at all its orders. those that ignore the orders get killed. You all have seen too many movies. It aint an old west stand off. Someone in the SF community is laughing his tail off because he said "hey, lets pretend we told him to surrender!" LOL

What did OBL say to that? "You'll never take me alive coppers!!"

I remember after the somali pirate incident a magazine said that "fully equipped navy snipers parachuted in from helicopters next to the friendly surrounding ships before setting up sniping positions" uh yeah, because you can't just land a helicopter on the back of a Navy ship. again someone was surely laughing at the James Bond style entrance.

Edited May 2, 2011 by TaiidanTomcat

[Nicholas1969]

Now put his head on a Pike as a message to all others that want to Mess with the USA !

Gregg

...or nail him to a cross.

Too much, maybe?

The guys that were on the mission will never have to buy another drink....EVER.

Edited May 2, 2011 by Nicholas1969

[andrew.deboer]

It was a joke, son! Precisely because our guys never would have done it. Just as they would not have dragged the body through the streets, let a mob tear it apart, behead it in front of webcams, or hang it upside down for people to look at. All of these things, by the way, have been done to our people by their people.

Me and Big Tex don't agree on much, but we're 100% in agreement on this and I'm gonna quote it for truth: "Lighten up a bit will ya! Let us savor the moment. Getting him wasn't going to stop the war on terror, just knocking their "symbolic" leader off!"

Yep, if there was one non-negotiable item on our War On Terror to-do list, "Bring Osama To Room Temperature" was it. Ticking that off doesn't shorten the list, but it HAD to be done and I'm glad it was done. I don't think anyone on the globe would have advocated letting him live his life out in his compound.

Yeah, because that will make friends for the US throughout the world, and help bring an end to terrorist attacks everywhere...

[MattC]

EDIT -

Retracted as being potentially inflammatory, not my intention I assure you all, I am just a little retiscent to join in with the "hoorah we killed the sucker" high-fiving, I don't think this is going to play out at all well.

Edited May 2, 2011 by MattC

[ChesshireCat]

Oh boy, now he's a martyr, killed by the infidel devils... duck & cover.

looked at the photo of the building Osama was living in, and instantly saw something! There is a building not all that far from me that is almost identical to it, and in the past has been used in house to house training by a SEAL Team close by. I wonder?

Anyway he's now fish food!

gary

[JMan]

Interesting thought.....

It would be a nice touch if they took the $25 mil and gave every pilot / shooter on the raid an even split.

My guess will be that the most these guys will see will be their standard GI paycheck. Best money this country ever spent.

I am wondering what type of medals and how many will be awarded. In my opinion for their self-sacrifice they should all be awarded the CMH, but that's just my opinion! If not the "Congressional Medal of Honor", then at least the "Presidential Medal of Freedom". We will soon find out I suppose!

Jeremy

Edited May 2, 2011 by JMan

[ChesshireCat]

You thought that by being a martyr that you would be given 72 virgins, however now that you are in your prison, that being HELL, you now have 72 BUBBAS!!!!!

Jeremy

he is about to find out that he's getting the 72 vigins promised to him, but with a catch! They are all lesbos!

gary

[TaiidanTomcat]

The record on treatment of POW's doesn't really agree there now does it. How many times have we seen service personnel (not only US I know, this isn't a dig at the US) treating POW's like dirt for entertainment? Yes I know they have done it to us, but if we're going to play the moral high ground game then we need to stay on it.

And while I think about it, something concerns me a little here.

OBL was found in Pakistan, and it seems like the west has been itching to get in there for a long time, and now we are. Are we now going to see a "security presence" within Pakistan?

And how is that going to play with Russia and the Pak-FA deal et al, surely the deal will be closed down because Russia won't want to be seen to be dealing with Pakistan if the suspicion is that Pakistan was complicit in the hiding of OBL?

So that scuppers that deal, which robs the Pak-FA programme of much of its funding.

I'm not making conspiracy theories here, its just that the whole mess is so convoluted that the more we do, the deeper the mire appears to get, and I can't see any way of extracating ourselves from it.

uuuhhh what? I doubt it will ever come up, I can think of billion$ of reasons why. Russia will never say "you are bad bad baddies, and now we won't share our toys with you no matter how much money you give us" You are really over thinking this.

Edited May 2, 2011 by TaiidanTomcat

[TaiidanTomcat]

Next thing is another terrorist attack based on the US being anti-islamic.

Is that why terrorist attacks happen? The perception of an anti Islamic US? or are there other factors in play?

Do they really believe that someone being against your religion warrants their deaths, even if that were the case?

[Andre]

looked at the photo of the building Osama was living in, and instantly saw something! There is a building not all that far from me that is almost identical to it, and in the past has been used in house to house training by a SEAL Team close by.

There are reports that an exact copy of Osama's mansion was erected in Afghanistan the last month for SEAL training purposes.

Cheers,

Andre

[gonzalo]

I am wondering what type of medals and how many will be awarded. In my opinion for their self-sacrifice they should all be awarded the CMH, but that's just my opinion! If not the "Congressional Medal of Honor", then at least the "Presidential Medal of Freedom". We will soon find out I suppose!

Jeremy

I agree but we might never know. For sure I seriously doubt they will ever release the identities of the SF guys.

[JMan]

I agree but we might never know. For sure I seriously doubt they will ever release the identities of the SF guys.

I understand why, but that would suck for them because that means they still have to buy their own beers when going out. I would have loved to buy them all a beer and thank them personally because now my kids will actually be able to grow up in a world with one less person twisting the words of either the Koran, or Holy Bible. Something should be done for them, even if it's just giving them a home tax free without a mortgage. Something needs to be done for them!

Jeremy

[gonzalo]

I am very proud of our armed forces and our SF forces for completing this incredible mission. They are consummate professionals and we will never learn of who they are or how much we really owe them in return. That being said let us be responsible how we accept this victory. Taking pictures Bernie style? Bullets with pig lard? Hang his head on a pole? We are Americans. We do what has to be done PROFESSIONALLY. How dare you insult the brave men that have done this by suggesting we lower themselves to the terrorist level. We didn't need to send in the SF. Once we had positive ID we could have sent a squadron of B-1's to wipe the place out if need be. We didn't because we value life and wanted this done correctly. We didn't wipe out a village to get one man.That is what the terrorist would have done. We do not parade dead people on the streets and mutilate their bodies. That is what terrorist do. We did what had to be done and done the right and only way. To state it should have been done any other way is a slap in the face of professional SF everywhere. To suggest that they should behave like terrorist is an insult to them. Think before you type and consider what it is you are saying. Someone posted let us savor this moment and lighten up? NO! There is no lightening up. Our forces are on high alert anticipating retaliation. They do not have the luxury to lighten up and make jokes. This is serious. Ridiculous comments will not help anyone. Say your thanks be glad you didn't have to do what they did and have some dignity for our Armed Forces.

[11bee]

It was a joke, son! Precisely because our guys never would have done it.

It was stupid to say it. And yes, we have done things like that. There are a few Army troops on trial for murder right now that also took kill shots, which then ended up online.

All juvenile antics like that do is to push a few thousands more people over the line and help them decide to take up arms against our country.

Edited May 2, 2011 by 11bee

[Von_L]

Thanks to all the men and women in our armed forces who lost their lives, lost limbs, lost themselves in Iraq and Afghanistan all these years.

Thank you Navy SEALs for taking him out. (Remember their MOH mission just a few miles west. -Von_L)

Thanks to our intelligence community that painstakinly pursued and tracked this vile human down.

Finally, to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 at the Twin Towers and the Penatgon, may you finally have closure and your loved ones rest in peace.

This isn't over yet, but it is sweet victory to take him out. Let it serve notice to all who would commit acts of terrorism, that we never rest, that we will hunt you down, and we will kill you like the vermin you are.

Good call, TX. This is about where I am today, too.

Until we get some real pix and AAR info, take another look at Austin Kennedy's MH-60 Fast Rope dio. I'm guessing it looked a lot like this. Very cool that one happens to be posted today.

"Live Free or Die!"

[MattC]

Do they really believe that someone being against your religion warrants their deaths, even if that were the case?

Its not being "against" the religion that is the issue, its being deliberately offensive about it. Its the attitude that unless someone conforms to the western notion of what a person should believe in they are automatically either a threat or an object of ridicule.

So yes, they do believe that being deliberately offensive about their religion is a justification for terrorism. I don't agree with their stance by any means, but its fairly obvious that it is the case.

Some people believe that because people have a different political system in their country, that is a justification for invasion.

Its somewhat difficult to take the high ground against radical islam when you perpetually give it fuel for the fire.

[JMan]

I am very proud of our armed forces and our SF forces for completing this incredible mission. They are consummate professionals and we will never learn of who they are or how much we really owe them in return. That being said let us be responsible how we accept this victory. Taking pictures Bernie style? Bullets with pig lard? Hang his head on a pole? We are Americans. We do what has to be done PROFESSIONALLY. How dare you insult the brave men that have done this by suggesting we lower themselves to the terrorist level. We didn't need to send in the SF. Once we had positive ID we could have sent a squadron of B-1's to wipe the place out if need be. We didn't because we value life and wanted this done correctly. We didn't wipe out a village to get one man.That is what the terrorist would have done. We do not parade dead people on the streets and mutilate their bodies. That is what terrorist do. We did what had to be done and done the right and only way. To state it should have been done any other way is a slap in the face of professional SF everywhere. To suggest that they should behave like terrorist is an insult to them. Think before you type and consider what it is you are saying. Someone posted let us savor this moment and lighten up? NO! There is no lightening up. Our forces are on high alert anticipating retaliation. They do not have the luxury to lighten up and make jokes. This is serious. Ridiculous comments will not help anyone. Say your thanks be glad you didn't have to do what they did and have some dignity for our Armed Forces.

Amen Gonzalo. Thanks for saying what some of us may have been afraid to say because of comments like that that were said about lightening up. I am happy that Osama Bin Laden is dead. Not because the man is dead, but for what the man stood for. The hundreds of thousands of men women and children he brainwashed into turning religious writings into man made murder, torture, and hatred. I am happy, as I stated in another post, that the head of the snake has been cut off. I know that his followers aren't going to just say "Damn Osama is dead, I guess we should just go home!" They are probably as we go on about our daily lives working, sleeping, eating, spending time with children and family, thinking of a way to strike back, and strike back 100 fold. I didn't just listen to Pres. Obama say he was dead, but also watched as analysts and other key figures in anti-terrorism saying that Al-Queida probably won't have the punch that it used to have with OBL being the front man but that it is still a dangerous organization not only to the U.S.A. or her troops in Iraq and Afghanistan but also to the many countries that have given us aid in our fight against terrorism. America stands for justice, integrity, and honor, that's why we won't parade this beast with his head on a pike, or through the streets for all to kick, spit, punch or stab. We buried him in the traditional Muslim way to show the rest of the world that we aren't the monster that this fundamentalist regime has made us out to be.

Jeremy

[Marcel111]

Wow, AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marcel

[designfriemel]

His death is a relef but circumstance makes it bitter:

Everybody has the right for a fair trial - even Osama Bin Laden.

you don't kill when you can capture - it is uncivilized. a country that claims to be a free, democratic nation assassinates?

Democratic nations keeping up death squads and even unashamedly, publicly using them? No thanks - I'll rather stick with a constitutional state and rule of law.

Can someone rather deprive the ISI of power? At the end of the day they are the origin and mastermind of all of this.

We should make an end to this institution of death rather than amuse the masses with assassination of their retired creations.

[gonzalo]

Amen Gonzalo. Thanks for saying what some of us may have been afraid to say because of comments like that that were said about lightening up. I am happy that Osama Bin Laden is dead. Not because the man is dead, but for what the man stood for. The hundreds of thousands of men women and children he brainwashed into turning religious writings into man made murder, torture, and hatred. I am happy, as I stated in another post, that the head of the snake has been cut off. I know that his followers aren't going to just say "Damn Osama is dead, I guess we should just go home!" They are probably as we go on about our daily lives working, sleeping, eating, spending time with children and family, thinking of a way to strike back, and strike back 100 fold. I didn't just listen to Pres. Obama say he was dead, but also watched as analysts and other key figures in anti-terrorism saying that Al-Queida probably won't have the punch that it used to have with OBL being the front man but that it is still a dangerous organization not only to the U.S.A. or her troops in Iraq and Afghanistan but also to the many countries that have given us aid in our fight against terrorism. America stands for justice, integrity, and honor, that's why we won't parade this beast with his head on a pike, or through the streets for all to kick, spit, punch or stab. We buried him in the traditional Muslim way to show the rest of the world that we aren't the monster that this fundamentalist regime has made us out to be.

Jeremy

Thank you Jeremy

[RKic]

Boys, boys, there is no need to bicker, and over-analyze.

There are only two words that need to be said at this very instant

Go Navy!!!!!!

[JMan]

Boys, boys, there is no need to bicker, and over-analyze.

There are only two words that need to be said at this very instant

Go Navy!!!!!!

I am proud to say that I am a Naval Veteran. The S.E.A.L.'s are the baddest of the bad!

Jeremy

[TaiidanTomcat]

Its not being "against" the religion that is the issue, its being deliberately offensive about it. Its the attitude that unless someone conforms to the western notion of what a person should believe in they are automatically either a threat or an object of ridicule.

So yes, they do believe that being deliberately offensive about their religion is a justification for terrorism. I don't agree with their stance by any means, but its fairly obvious that it is the case.

Some people believe that because people have a different political system in their country, that is a justification for invasion.

Its somewhat difficult to take the high ground against radical islam when you perpetually give it fuel for the fire.

And how were we offensive again? What did we do wrong with OBL?