Dndieje Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Footage of a TU-154 allegedly flown for the first time in 10 years after overhaul. Managed to get it back in one piece though ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Wow.... almost looked like the controls were connected in reverse during the overhaul process. Can't believe they got that thing on the ground in one piece. Very lucky pilots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cheeley Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Wow.... almost looked like the controls were connected in reverse during the overhaul process. Can't believe they got that thing on the ground in one piece. Very lucky pilots. Some details here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skidbuggy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 There's a long discussion of the event over on pprune.org Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfgun33 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 That's a great pilot to bring it back in one piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 WOW !! Was it MY monitor or was it swaying from side to side.... The Pilot did a super job of handling it and bringing it down safely.. Thanks for the Video HOLMES Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0M4ever Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 How would you control pitch with only engines and a rudder? Increase power to climb? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) *somethingwashere?* Edited May 6, 2011 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark M. Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Rudder induces a rolling movement as well as a swing, so as he was swinging left and right he was also adjusting the roll angle, is my guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattC Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Application of rudder induces a roll, which itself induces a pitch down couple. So, continuous weaving maintains a pitch down couple and counteracts any tendancy to climb (perhaps trim induced) Thats helped by the sweepback of the wing, which creates an additional dihedral effect in addition to the geometric dihedral. Can't go too far with the 154 layout I should think, excessive yaw I would suspect may blank the inner wing. Back in the day, RC was flown rudder only, and it was usual to trim nose up for a climb. Sufficient application of rudder could induce a dive, so it was possible to loop and roll and fly a circuit with nothing more than rudder control. Exemplary pilot skill in this case though I must admit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 How would you control pitch with only engines and a rudder? Increase power to climb? Power changes impact pitch. Differential power can control lateral direction. Seems similar to the United DC-10 / Souix City crash, with a better outcome. Great job by the crew! I was getting a bit airsick just watching that plane gyrate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 On a pucker factor scale of 1-10; had I been there I would have been at 25!!. IIRC during the 50's when seemingly a new design was in the test stages every week/month; one of the lesser gods in the magnitude had a bird in testing and during some hard maneuvering the flight controls got reversed and before the pilot could compensate; he had to exit the office for nylon let down and that one augered in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dndieje Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 I love the Tu-154, one of the all-time classics. Some more proof of the sturdiness of this beauty here: http://avherald.com/h?article=430a1d01&opt=0 An Alrosa Mirny Air Tupolev TU-154M made an emergency landing on a too short runway. Ran off the end of the runway into the woods mowing down trees. Everyone got off the plane unscathed. Plane was extracted from the woods, fixed and took off again from the disused airport using just 800 Meters of runway ! Oh yeah, Berkut. I did read up on the event, that's in fact how I found the video Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Oh yeah, Berkut. I did read up on the event, that's in fact how I found the video Okei, sorry if i overreacted. It is just pretty standard to read that if something wrong goes wrong, everyone starting "joking" about drunk pilots, crappy russian planes, well, you get the picture. If american (or western for that matter) heroically lands a plane, then yay, hero! Would be fun if each time something like that happened and someone made a "joke" about stupid or fat americans causing the crash? ;) Doubtful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Linden Hill Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Flankerman and I encountered RA-85563 at Chkalovskii in August 2009. She was in a bit of a state then, and engineless. God knows why they'd want to fly her again. Chkalovskii is the Russian equivalent of the UK's Northolt or the USA's Andrews. They have plenty of the more modern Tu-154M variants. The Tu-154b-2s at Chkalovskii were looking 'tired' a couple of years ago. Major kudos to the pilots who brought her home safely. Once you get through the front gate security at Chkalovskii, they are a great bunch of lads. Edited May 6, 2011 by Linden Hill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary Busey Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 He deserves a gift card to the nearest men's undergarment establishment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hoban Washburne Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Amazing recovery from a bad situation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) Flankerman and I encountered RA-85563 at Chkalovskii in August 2009. I knew I had a pic somewhere - thanks for reminding me Guy.... Like you say - great piloting skills - no 'crazy flying' or 'Fly by Bottle'. Ken Edited May 6, 2011 by Flankerman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Nice Save ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 :lol: we read this yesterday and the news folks had it on last night. We beat them by a good 8 hours . Internet news beats major networks...details at 11:00P on our next news cast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 :lol: we read this yesterday and the news folks had it on last night. We beat them by a good 8 hours . Internet news beats major networks...details at 11:00P on our next news cast. The vid's of incident has already been up for several days before this topic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
William G Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Okei, sorry if i overreacted. It is just pretty standard to read that if something wrong goes wrong, everyone starting "joking" about drunk pilots, crappy russian planes, well, you get the picture. If american (or western for that matter) heroically lands a plane, then yay, hero! Would be fun if each time something like that happened and someone made a "joke" about stupid or fat americans causing the crash? ;) Doubtful. Actually Berkut, it would have been more like the pilot had the hugely overweight passengers moving through the cabin to control the aircraft in a similar manner in the US, :P (Just kidding) All I have to say is that Pilot had nerves of steel for that accomplishment. William G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ross blackford Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 :D, Actually William, and not to put too serious a point on it, but seeing this was a military Tu-154 it wouldn't have been carrying many passengers on a test flight except perhaps for those who worked on the overhaul and I'm sure not even a fare generating Tu-154 would be carrying any passengers on a test flight. I'm not sure if the RuAF has the same policy as British Commonwealth Air Forces but in the RAAF, if you worked on a transport or maritime type aircraft during major servicing, you went on the test flight. This was a reward for a job well done but also mainly an incentive to make sure you did the job right the first time. , Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kopfjaeger Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 :D, Actually William, and not to put too serious a point on it, but seeing this was a military Tu-154 it wouldn't have been carrying many passengers on a test flight except perhaps for those who worked on the overhaul and I'm sure not even a fare generating Tu-154 would be carrying any passengers on a test flight. I'm not sure if the RuAF has the same policy as British Commonwealth Air Forces but in the RAAF, if you worked on a transport or maritime type aircraft during major servicing, you went on the test flight. This was a reward for a job well done but also mainly an incentive to make sure you did the job right the first time. , Ross. HEHE HE you fix it... you fly it... like it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I have great confidence in mechanics who fix, sign off, and then test fly aircraft. Makes me want to go fly with them :) Our club mechanic is one of those. One of the very few people on earth I can honestly say I'd fly in any airplane anytime anywhere with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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