Jinxter13 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) Which kit is the easier build...on this one political Correctness (ie. anatomy precision) isn't too much a major concern. The Monogram it is touted as the best and I believe what I've read, however it requires rescribing to get that little extra desired by some. How does the Italeri stack up when matched against good ol' Monogram...how much does it need to be on equal standing?. Online reviews don't totally work for me. I like to hear it from someone who's dealt with the actual build, and can tell ya what looking at the kit can't. Edited May 11, 2011 by Angels49 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 I built the Tamiya a few months ago and it was superb aside from the lack of a cockpit. I did put a BB pit in that was made for the Monogram one with no problems though. I guess though that the Tamiya model isn't really a production variant though and was based on the prototype but I could be wrong. Looked like an A-10 enough for me and the fit was superb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Av8fan Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) This question seems to come up fairly often. Here is a good discussion with links to ARC and Britmodeller. A-10 I tried the Monogram A-10 years ago. For me the biggest issues were raised panel lines and some downright lousy fit of some of the pieces. That being said, you can overcome the issues with dry fitting(careful and lots)and you probably wont need to use the gallon of filler that I did. When things are better, and the LHS has one in, I will give the Monogram kit another try. I think a CAF A-10 with low vis lightning stripes. hmm. Edited May 11, 2011 by Av8fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The Tamiya kit represents an FSD A-10A, not a prototype (per se). Considering that was the only kind of A-10 that existed when it came out, that's not surprising. There's not that much difference in production birds, albeit very early ones, and the Tamiya kit. The Italeri kit "looks like an A-10" - as long as you don't know much about the real airplane. It all depends what you're looking for. The Starfix Spitfire looks like a Spitfire too... J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jezones Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Call me crazy but I actually really liked the way the hobby boss kit comes out in 1/72 scale Yeah u have to combine it with the academy kit to fill in the blanks of the hobby boss kit. It has engraved panel lines and the one piece main body makes for a clean build. Also the wings fit well to the body with out having to use a tube of filler to close the gaps. The monogram kit looks small when sitting beside the hobbyboss kit. And the gun looks out of scale with the rest of the jet. Just my two cents Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PNW_Modeler Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Clif, your best bet is Monogram. Yes....they do have those pesky raised panel lines....but a roll of Dymo tape, pin vise and an evening in front of the TV can remedy that. I do my best scribing while watching the Mariners personally. It is by far the most accurate. Just be prepared to drop a TON of weight in the nose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Av8fan Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) I see that you mention ease of build over accuracy. Post 13 on the Britmodeller link I gave was a bit of an insight to the fit issues with the Monogram kit. Some folks have no trouble, others like myself struggled mightily. Some folks have had issues with the HB kit as well. Monogram doesn't always have the best fit, but if budget is in the equation, I think the Monogram takes it, followed closely by the HB. EAse of build for me with this Monogram kit was an issue. I guess you need an opinion from a modeler who has built both. Here are a few Italeri builds Italeri A-10 1 Flory A-10 Italeri build 3 Edited May 12, 2011 by Av8fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) italeri has a boxy front and needs to be rescribed. this is what i heard. i have never built this kit. i have a tendency to not touch italeri kits tamiya like the italeri has a boxy front. awesome kit like all tamiya kits. crappy cockpit with no details. monogram/revell has the best shape and i'st accurate but needs a lot of test fitting because they don't have the best fit. no complaints for the price. hobby boss is a great kit. never built one because of the steep price. so, they say the best hogs in 1/48 is monogram and hobby boss. i have yet to actually build my tamiya kit. i did cut some parts off the sprues for some dry fitting. fits well like always. i still finishing a monogram kit. monogram tends to have sloppy molds and needs a lot of clean up but again for the price, you can't complain. you can grab the tamiya kit at hobbylobby. use their 40% off coupon. $40 kit for $24. Edited May 12, 2011 by randypandy831 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) The panel lines on the Monogram kit are very fine and the raised rivet detail is accurate. It will build up into a nice model. Curt This was built by one of our Club Members, I can't take credit for this build. Edited May 12, 2011 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 The panel lines on the Monogram kit are very fine and the raised rivet detail is accurate. It will build up into a nice model. I concurr on the raised lines, there is NO NEED TO SCRIBE these unless you just enjoy scribing. The raised lines are not more innacurate than the recessed! The only problem with those raised lines is some will get sanded off after cleaning up seams. I just "re-drew" mine back in with a mechanical pencil and it all looks cherry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Uh-huh... I concur with both Curt 'n' Toad with regard to the Monogram Warthog. The Italeri kit "looks like an A-10" - as long as you don't know much about the real airplane. :blink: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...!!! Cheers there, Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I've built the Italeri and it was a bit of a beast, I would reccomend the Revellogram over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I've built the Italeri and it was a bit of a beast, I would reccomend the Revellogram over it. Me too, Toad, my mate; me too... The Italeri kit wouldn't look like an A-10 even if the kit was actually meant to represent it, me thinks. Pst, pst... have "them" the whole Hubble telescope as nearsighted glasses, maybe? Me wonders... ^^^ ;) Cheers now, Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 monogram FTW! i never touch italeri kits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedHeadKevin Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I love the Monogram kit, mainly for tradition and the price. It's still the most accurate Hog out there, but the fit...man, the fit. I wish there was a way to preserve the AWESOME rivet detail everywhere, but sadly, you're going to lose some in the sanding process. Scribing the panel lines will only make it worse, but I think it does look better. Now we just need someone to release an A-10C upgrade for it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Take a look at a real A-10 and you won't bother with rescribing. This is the one on display at Ft Campbell, Kentucky. Unfortunately it's not in the best of shape… http://s20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/DDonSS3/A-10A%20Thunderbolt%20II/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Uncool Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Those are very noooiiiceee pictures, Donnie! Thank ya very much for sharin,' mate. Cheers now, Unc² Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 monogram FTW! i never touch italeri kits. Admittidly, I did touch the Italeri kit- see my thread here in the Critique Corner: http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=230989&pid=2202510&st=0entry2202510 As I said- MUCH prefer the Monogram kit. The next Hog I build will be the 1/32 Trumpeter kit however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jinxter13 Posted May 14, 2011 Author Share Posted May 14, 2011 Thanx for all the feedback guys.....with all things considered it will be one for the home team, and Monogram's entry gets the bid ( Michael's coupons figured into it also ). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diamondback Six Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 As a rusty modeler coming back, I have one big beef with it and a lot of their other kits: WHY the heck is their obsession with 'diorama in a box' so severe they can't provide options to model a bird 'buttoned up' to fly or gear-up? I mean, come on... and would it REALLY kill 'em to provide a sprue of modern ordnance rather than making us buy Hasegawa packs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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