TaiidanTomcat Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Wow!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony in NZ Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Unbelieveable....I am truly speechless Thanks for the update Norbert! Cheers Anthony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
camophilip Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 WOW!!!!!!!!!!! Very very impressive! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Very impressive work Norbert, and I cant wait to see what you come up w/ for the interior. I really need to learn to do surfacing in Solidworks, and then I'd be able to attempt something like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chukw Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I just discovered this thread- beautiful, beautiful work, Norbert- cheers! I work with some of the very best CG modelers in the world, I'm proud to say- and you stand right up there with them. This is an epic project- and you are breaking ground in an important new aspect of our hobby-- I salute you. With a banana, of course! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony in NZ Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Oh man, I think I am going to have to learn about programming so that I can make a 32nd Bell 412 with this technology! Somehow Chuckw, I think it is something I cant learn overnight!Is there a particular programme that seems to stand out as the 'one to use or learn about' or is it still in its infancy? I see these printers are coming down in price for a decent hi-res one. Cheers Anthony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Many thanks guys for your kind words. designing with 3D CAD is something normal today in industry. Boys learn Solidworks, Catia, Inventor...in ingeneering schools. OK, I'm 52 this week, and learned it. My experience in scratchbuilding was a big help. So Anthony, I have no doubts you can do it. Printing is another thing : To obtain sharp details, I need to use micro stereolithography. The best I found is 16 microns thin layers<<<<; Prices of such printing and of such machines are today still insane. I'm lucky to have a good job to afford that, and that my wife accept it. Have a nice day Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph Osborn Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Norbert, this is the most amazing scale helicopter model... Ever! I am learning Autodesk Inventor and I just today received one of the first pieces that I've sent out for printing-- I am addicted to 3D now! The price of quality printing is very high and you will have a fortune invested in this model, but it will be a truly unique masterpiece when it is complete! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Norbert, this is the most amazing scale helicopter model... Ever! I am learning Autodesk Inventor and I just today received one of the first pieces that I've sent out for printing-- I am addicted to 3D now! Does this mean that Fireball will have some very nice products coming out in the future? I'm not quite sure of what this technology means for our hobby, is this more geared toward projects like Norberts or can we expect to see aftermarket folks starting to release commercial products (similar to what Liveresin is doing for the 1/35 armor realm) using this method? Edited November 24, 2012 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 The very nice thing about using 3D modeling is it allows for more complex parts to be created that can then be used as masters for resin casting. I've created a few 3D models for people that will be used for resin casting, and I think its something that will help our hobby a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Norbert, this is the most amazing scale helicopter model... Ever! I am learning Autodesk Inventor and I just today received one of the first pieces that I've sent out for printing-- I am addicted to 3D now! The price of quality printing is very high and you will have a fortune invested in this model, but it will be a truly unique masterpiece when it is complete! Hi Joseph I took advantage of a 20% black friday ticket for the next sections. Great you start on Inventor, and yes, you may becomme addicted. Now, will I be too curious asking for some pics of your first printing ? Have a nice day Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Does this mean that Fireball will have some very nice products coming out in the future? I'm not quite sure of what this technology means for our hobby, is this more geared toward projects like Norberts or can we expect to see aftermarket folks starting to release commercial products (similar to what Liveresin is doing for the 1/35 armor realm) using this method? Hi John What is spectacular, you can do a complete frame as I did, or single details like life resin. Possibilities seems endless but there are limits : printers DPI and printable dimensions. Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arkhunter2002 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 That looks crazy awesome. Have fun finding somewhere to put that thing Take care, Austin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph Osborn Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Hi Joseph I took advantage of a 20% black friday ticket for the next sections. Great you start on Inventor, and yes, you may becomme addicted. Now, will I be too curious asking for some pics of your first printing ? Have a nice day Norbert Every little bit of discount helps, right? Here is the model: And here is the printed wheel on a rubber casting of a tire that was made the "traditional" way: This is 1/24 scale and the overall diameter of the wheel is just 0.863" inch. And it cost a ridiculous amount to print it!! For me, I must have a very detailed sketch to start from. I can't fathom something as complex as a complete model just yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph Osborn Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Does this mean that Fireball will have some very nice products coming out in the future? I'm not quite sure of what this technology means for our hobby, is this more geared toward projects like Norberts or can we expect to see aftermarket folks starting to release commercial products (similar to what Liveresin is doing for the 1/35 armor realm) using this method? There have been complete kits made from 3d-printed masters for a few years now, and the large figurines that are made from digital Zbrush sculptures are breathtaking. The technology can be applied to all manner of scale model projects. Norbert's is the most ambitious helicopter project by far, though. Some of the coolest 3d-printed models I know of are spacecraft from Battlestar Galactica that were made directly from the digital models used for the CGI in the show. Once you start learning the process it's like a whole new world opens up for you. As Norbert says, the only limitations right now are the resolution and build envelope of particular machines... and cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Great work Joseph! I'd share the models I've designed that will be printed, but I'd have to get permission from the people I designed them for. I'm still waiting to see them printed out, cant wait for that to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Thank you for the picture Joseph I imagine doind such a rim by hand...Yes, it's the kind of piece where computer drawing is handy. And the item is very nice JOseph Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shark 64 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Looks good. Such an impressive build. You are a mad man Norbert....I love it Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) Hi who is the madest Oliver ? Back to CAD model I made the interior wall details of the nose I started also on the cockpit floor and front wall Added gunner/observer seat, DShK inside gun cover, tablets...I still have plenty to add Norbert Edited December 3, 2012 by norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shawn M Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 tough call between the two of you for the most 'barking mad man. Norbert, that work looks good and will help shore up the inside of the parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALEXANDRE REZENDE Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Norbert, Here in Brazil we do not have this level assemblies! Amazing how the plastimodel evolved in North American countries and European! Congratulations on the effort on this model! The result is amazing! :woo:/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Thank you Shawn, thank you Alexandre ! Next section of fuselage are now in UPS hands...can't wait. Should get some MH-47 parts and connectors also wondering how they will look Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Thank you Shawn, thank you Alexandre ! Next section of fuselage are now in UPS hands...can't wait. Should get some MH-47 parts and connectors also wondering how they will look Norbert Me too. Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Cant wait to see the next section! And that interior is looking great already. I'm just starting on my 2 most ambitious modeling projects so far. Working on a German WWI Zeppelin, and a Soviet destroyer, both will be in 1/700 scale when I'm finished. Was having a ton of problems getting it on my computer at home, so I tried it on my workstation here at work, and its working perfectly. I knew my computer at home was far from the optimum when it comes to using Solidworks, but what I'm working on now glaringly points out just how bad it actually is. When I get farther along, I'll post some prelim pic's of mine if the client I'm doing them for will allow it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hi Adam CAD starts with expensive computers...and continues with expensive printing... You're welcome to show your work I received the 4 aft sections, "c'est le pied" (french expression, it's the foot, to say I enjoy it) Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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