F4DPhantomII Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 I read that the Russians painted the inside of the exhausts with green paint.Wouldn't it have burned off?Must have been strong stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Given the fact that the inside will not been easily visible I'm not sure that it will be very important. The Soviet radome green wouldn't do ? I would think that green thing was a layer of enamel or ceramic and not paint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted August 6, 2011 Author Share Posted August 6, 2011 Laurent Thanks for the suggestion.I have a bottle of Red Paint(remember them) aqueous dielectric green that I plan on using on my radome and other panels.I suppose I could streak some in the exhaust too.Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hi F4DPhantomII, The petals of the nozzle, the inside of it is painted with a special green "paint". It is a kind of ceramic paint. No, it will not burn off, the metal under it will give up first!!! It is visible on the kit, very much so! With time, and service it will turn more dull and lighter shade but will be there. It is the same material as used on all other Migs too. In the afterburner section the same stuff is applied to the afterburner rings, the "flame holders". Note that there is a considerable difference between the different engine types used in MiG-21's and the colours of the afterburner section. Have a look at real photos, it is not just a "dark or black hole". Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Pics! Pics! We need pics! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
levixhu Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Here my pic about green part of engine. Green Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G_Marcat_Italy Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 link to a walkaround Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Are you sure that's paint? I was lead to believe that the Green colour is due to the metal oxidising under the heat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Thanks for the links to pics guys! I'll include this consideration with my upcoming Eduard kit build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
levixhu Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Yes its a heat resistance paintm not oxidising metal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Hi F4DPhantomII, The green in its original form is almost perfect F.S. 14110 colour. Just a shade darker. It is gloss I have to add! After years of service it turns into anything from the original (only in matt) 34110 to somewhere F.S. 34227 to 34373 colour. I have here with me the original parts and have compared them to the F.S. scale in daylight but not on direct sun. Hope this is of help to you. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Any Tamiya color close out of the bottle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Hi Toadwbg, I have no idea!!! I can give you the Federal Standard number based on the original item. I have no Tamiya paints to compare it to here with me. The F.S. scale should be a uniform form of communicating colour shades. I am sure someone with the KNOW will tell you. The usual problem with Russian colours that in most cases they do not correspond to any Western standards. They are precisely defined in Russian standards but thats all. Even the Russian Akan paints are questiuoned by some people. I "only" have the original items and in most cases people simply dont believe me. I am sorry, I just try to help. I know that the colour is right, everyone can make a decision on their own if they use or not the provided information. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I am sorry, I just try to help. I know that the colour is right, everyone can make a decision on their own if they use or not the provided information. Best regards Gabor Gabor, Don't be sorry, man. Your comments are specific, on point, and most helpful. Keep up the good work! Mrvark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 The usual problem with Russian colours that in most cases they do not correspond to any Western standards. Gabor No prob, usually close enough is good enough on interior colors for me. I'll pick one close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Do you have a picture of the part against your color examples? I'd love to see that! Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Hi Jester 292 Sorry I dont have that. If I have time I will make one, but still not sure how to post it on ARC. The earliest I will have time for this is end of August after return from Russian MAKS show. On the other hand I dont realy see what difference a photo would make unless you want to see an F.S. scale an a piece of metal. The colour would not show right on a monitor of the computer in a way for it to be of any use in selecting a paint! But if this is what you want, as I said when I have time . . . Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) The one at Prime Portal looks to be medium green FS34102 or close to what they paint the dielectric panels. HTH---John http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0PDoX3sHkNO7VwA3_GJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3cnMybzJvBHNsawNpbWc-?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DRussian%2BMig%2B21%2Bengine%2Bpictures%26n%3D30%26ei%3Dutf-8%26y%3DSearch%26fr%3Dmy-myy%26b%3D331%26tab%3Dorganic&w=800&h=600&imgurl=sweb.cz%2Fquapim%2Fmig.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnx.cz%2Ffos%2Ffos6.html&size=139+KB&name=quapim+21+05+01+5+9+2002+mig+15+bez+motoru&p=Russian+Mig+21+engine+pictures&oid=5a77ee8beed73ae7c5b553447a557f50&fr2=&fr=my-myy&tt=quapim+21+05+01+5+9+2002+mig+15+bez+motoru&b=331∋=30&no=349&tab=organic&sigr=10vg1l59c&sigb=1404sbfbq&sigi=10mi998df&.crumb=THAXJeFkw/v Edited August 11, 2011 by john53 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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