Clave Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Batch One: This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 51 of the Abu Dhabi Air Force circa 1984. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 127 of the Royal Australian Air Force circa 2008. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk CT-155 of the Royal Canadian Air Force circa 2004. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 51 of the Finnish Air Force circa 1980. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 51 of the Finnish Air Force circa 2000. This example is a BAe Hawk T1 of the 4th Flying Training School circa 1982. This example is a BAe Hawk T1A of 19 Squadron circa 1992. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Batch 2: This example is a BAe Hawk T1A of 79 Squadron circa 1986. This example is a BAe Hawk T1A of 151 Squadron circa 1983. This example is a BAe Hawk T1A of the Red Arrows circa 2005. This example is a BAe Hawk T1A of the Red Arrows circa 2010. This example is a BAe Hawk T1 of the Empire Test Pilots School circa 1989. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeilF92 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Hi Clave , Same as with the Tucano's - the high gloss black looks like dark sea grey on here - or is it my monitor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Hi Neil - I have set the shading mesh to maximum 'shine' on the black Hawk and Tucano - I think the underlying tone of black may need tweaking as well - I will do some tests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 OK, I have maxed out the black now, any further change will wipe out all the detail - cheers, Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeilF92 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) Hi Bill, Hope you don't mind me interfering? Please forgive the liberties I've taken with your Hawk image to try and show what I mean by the glossy black effect. I noticed a lucky gloss effect just adding pure black to the bottom half and fin with a lighter shade on the very top of the spine. Edited August 16, 2011 by NeilF92 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Hi Bill, Hope you don't mind me interfering? Please forgive the liberties I've taken with your Hawk image to try and show what I mean by the glossy black effect. I noticed a lucky gloss effect just adding pure black to the bottom half and fin with a lighter shade on the very top of the spine. No, I know exactly what you are getting at Neil, and if I was hand-painting, it would funnily enough, be easier to do. I do have another trick up my digital sleeve though, so I'm off to try another experiment! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) OK, I have 'double-meshed' this to get the full effect (in actual fact copied and pasted the meshes at 60%) so the black areas are darker and the shiny areas brighter, so let's see... PS: There was a specific shading problem with the tail, which I have fixed and will roll out across the fleet soon (both shiny and non-shiny) Edited August 16, 2011 by Clave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 Shine is done, where necessary... New batch: This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 53 of the Indonesian Air Force circa 1980. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 53 of the Indonesian Air Force circa 1980. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 53 of the Indonesian Air Force circa 1984. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 109 of the Indonesian Air Force circa 2000. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 52 of the Kenyan Air Force circa 1980. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 52 of the Kenyan Air Force circa 1980. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 64 of the Kuwaiti Air Force circa 1998. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 108 of the Malaysian Air Force circa 1995. This example is a BAe Hawk Mk 103 of the Royal Air Force of Oman circa 1993. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Bill, STUNNING HAWK profiles.....IMPRESSIVE work and your art work is EXEMPLARY to look at... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 Most kind! Here are the last few: BAe Hawk Mk 120 of the South African Air Force 2007. BAe Hawk Mk 120 of the South African Air Force 2009. BAe Hawk Mk 67 of the South Korean Air Force 1993. BAe Hawk Mk 66 of the Swiss Air Force 1989. BAe Hawk Mk 66 of the Swiss Air Force 1991. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 18, 2011 Author Share Posted August 18, 2011 BAe Hawk Mk 66 of the Swiss Air Force 1996. Boeing/BAe T-45 Goshawk of the US Navy 1995. BAe Hawk Mk 60 of the Zimbabwe Air Force 1998. BAe Hawk Mk 60 of the Zimbabwe Air Force 1998. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Wow, a lot of great schemes have been adorned on the Hawk over the years ! Thanks for sharing your fantastic profiles once again, Bill ... Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 Wow, a lot of great schemes have been adorned on the Hawk over the years ! Thanks for sharing your fantastic profiles once again, Bill ... Gregg Thank you for the nice reply. :) The Hawk has been (and still is) a success - I still have a couple of countries to bag for the full set - India and Bahrain; but because of the ongoing nature of the Hawk story, the only pictures I can find are boring 'delivery grey' so I will wait a couple of years I guess until they have been 'camoed-up' by their own fitters... Not quite the end though, I have been working on a Saudi aerobatic team one today, and I think there is a pretty interesting Malaysian one I'd like to do as well... ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geedubelyer Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 A very attractive range of profiles Clave, bravo. It goes to show how succesful the aircraft design has been over the years with so many airforces choosing the option. These schemes would make a smashing display for someones cabinet. There are one or two things that I noticed which may or may not be of interest to you. The first comment relates to the Red Arrows profiles and concerns the white flash along the nose. If you compare your artwork to images of the full sized aircraft you'll see that the band is more slender toward the nose. The white becomes no thicker than the pitot probe at the very nose of the aircraft. A second less noticable area is the rivet pattern at the rear of the fuselage. The uppermost line of rivets is parallel to the top panel line rather than the floor. Not a particularly important observation in truth but if you are concerned with accuracy you might wish to know about it. Lastly, I agree with Neil to a certain degree on the shine of the gloss subjects. I read your response and I guess it's not possible to add some hard shine to the profiles to suggest a glossier finish without obliterating some detail. Thank you for taking the time to share these profiles, I've certainly enjoyed looking at them. If I ever build another Hawk, I now know I have plenty of schemes to choose from. ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 A very attractive range of profiles Clave, bravo. It goes to show how succesful the aircraft design has been over the years with so many airforces choosing the option. These schemes would make a smashing display for someones cabinet. There are one or two things that I noticed which may or may not be of interest to you. The first comment relates to the Red Arrows profiles and concerns the white flash along the nose. If you compare your artwork to images of the full sized aircraft you'll see that the band is more slender toward the nose. The white becomes no thicker than the pitot probe at the very nose of the aircraft. A second less noticable area is the rivet pattern at the rear of the fuselage. The uppermost line of rivets is parallel to the top panel line rather than the floor. Not a particularly important observation in truth but if you are concerned with accuracy you might wish to know about it. Lastly, I agree with Neil to a certain degree on the shine of the gloss subjects. I read your response and I guess it's not possible to add some hard shine to the profiles to suggest a glossier finish without obliterating some detail. Thank you for taking the time to share these profiles, I've certainly enjoyed looking at them. If I ever build another Hawk, I now know I have plenty of schemes to choose from. ;) Thanks for the info, looks like I made a right arse of that scheme - must be going senile... Reds are fixed, just got to change the rivets on the other 32 Hawks now *sigh* BAe Hawk T1A of the Red Arrows 2005. BAe Hawk T1A of the Red Arrows 2010. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 19, 2011 Author Share Posted August 19, 2011 All fixed now. Last gasp: A couple of boring ones: BAe Hawk Mk 129 of the Bahrain Air Force 2006. BAe Hawk Mk 132 of the Indian Air Force 2008. And the final three: BAe Hawk T1A of 100 Squadron 1996. BAe Hawk Mk 108 of the Malaysian Air Force 2009. BAe Hawk Mk 65 of the Saudi Air Force 2011. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geedubelyer Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Brilliant! p.s, sorry for causing you all of that grief...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Most kind! Here are the last few: ......... :wub: :wub: I LOVE this profile....Love the camoflage colors... IMPRESSIVE art work Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clave Posted August 20, 2011 Author Share Posted August 20, 2011 :D I think it is a variation (or is actually) called the Nile Delta pattern. Used a lot on Egyptian MiGs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gray Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 You really nailed this collection, Clave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mi77915 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Awesome collection!!!!! Thanks for shearing them with us. Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I just came back to have a look at the INDIAN scheme... Something MY MOM and Aunt said to ME yesterday made ME come and have a look... :wub: MY MOM said that when she was younger she moved around India with her Father and they were living in Pune{POONA} AND SHE recalls seeing a HAWK...so I came to see what the scheme looked like :D MY AUNT's husband was in the BRITISH R.A.F. and he saw them in AFRICA...{just discovered he was a L.A.C!! } AWESOME work as always Clave Thnak you ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
soulfreak Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 This example is a BAe Hawk T1 of the Empire Test Pilots School circa 1989. Wow, great Profiles! But i got a question about the colors in that profile. what are the exact tones for the red & the blue color? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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