SUKHOI - SU Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) I have HASEGAWA F-16A 1/32 AND F-15D REVELL 1/32.What i have to do to make them Israel. Edited November 21, 2011 by SUKHOI - SU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 You 1st need top decide on an era, then let us know. The A/C progress quite often, so it's best to find a photo of the a/c you want to build and build it to that pic, you just can't throw an answer to a blanket statement like yours,your going to get 100 different answers. You can build them straight from the box hand have the early versions when 1st acquired from the US. The only mod I can recommend that will apply to all F-15's is to add the mass balancer to the top of the tail, both tails should have the small balancer. curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simone Macchia Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I have HASEGAWA F-16A 1/32 AND F-15D REVELL 1/32.What i have to do to make them Israel. I agree with Netz. For F-15D this topic can help you: My link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simone Macchia Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I have HASEGAWA F-16A 1/32 AND F-15D REVELL 1/32.What i have to do to make them Israel. About an idea of F-16A conversions: My link My link Those parts are no suitable for the last ex USAF Netz. Check your references... Simone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SUKHOI - SU Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 About an idea of F-16A conversions: My link My link Those parts are no suitable for the last ex USAF Netz. Check your references... Simone. the F-15D ΒΑΖ have different cockpit and what color it is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kurnass77 Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 the F-15D ΒΑΖ have different cockpit and what color it is? If you want build an D Improved Baz , the pit color is black. Send me a PM with your mail and i send you some pics of that area , I can't post here these pics 8 copyright mate...). Gianni Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SUKHOI - SU Posted November 26, 2011 Author Share Posted November 26, 2011 Thanks for the photos.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 (edited) About an idea of F-16A conversions: My link My link Those parts are no suitable for the last ex USAF Netz. Check your references... Simone. It is correct for the Peace Marble IV delivery 1994, they came as Block 5 and 10 which have the small stab, and were not fitted right away with the Chaff Flair dispensers. So it is a correct fit or should I say lack there of. This also applies to the Peace Marble I delivery, the first F-16's to be delivered, they did not get the external upgrades till the mid 80's, so if you were to build a Bakaa Vally or Osirak Nuclear Reactor raid bird it would be a standard USAF type airframe configuration. The only common external feature I notice is the comm antenna under the intake in front of the nose gear. There's a common misconception that an IDF/AF F-4 must have a external refueling probe, and the F-16A has to have Chaff/Flair dispensers, not so. Curt Edited November 27, 2011 by Netz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevan Vogler Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I'm not at all an expert on things Israeli, but if they are of any help, here's some pictures I took of a pair of Israeli F-15Ds that showed up at a Czech airshow in September of this year: 957 and 715 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Do you have anymore shots of 715? that is one of the 5 "D"s based on the "E" airframe. I'd like to see the gear doors (bulged or not)main wheels and the right side of the cockpit fuselage. I wonder what the cockpit layout looks like "D" or "E" ?? Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevan Vogler Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Do you have anymore shots of 715? that is one of the 5 "D"s based on the "E" airframe. I'd like to see the gear doors (bulged or not)main wheels and the right side of the cockpit fuselage. I wonder what the cockpit layout looks like "D" or "E" ?? Curt Unfortunately these are the only photos I got of it. Both Eagles had full fencing and a generous distance buffer. As the crews didn't bother coming out to man the displays, I couldn't ask anyone to let me closer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 At first glance, those seem like the narrow A/B/C/D wheels to me, plus the nosegear fork looks like the thin one on the legacy Eagles also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simone Macchia Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 It is correct for the Peace Marble IV delivery 1994, they came as Block 5 and 10 which have the small stab, and were not fitted right away with the Chaff Flair dispensers. So it is a correct fit or should I say lack there of. This also applies to the Peace Marble I delivery, the first F-16's to be delivered, they did not get the external upgrades till the mid 80's, so if you were to build a Bakaa Vally or Osirak Nuclear Reactor raid bird it would be a standard USAF type airframe configuration. The only common external feature I notice is the comm antenna under the intake in front of the nose gear. There's a common misconception that an IDF/AF F-4 must have a external refueling probe, and the F-16A has to have Chaff/Flair dispensers, not so. Curt Ultimately: If that are the parts at issue: First option is: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simone Macchia Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 The second: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Simone Macchia Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Note: :salute: Simone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I'm missing the point. What are you trying to prove with the multiple photos? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simone Macchia Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I have HASEGAWA F-16A 1/32 AND F-15D REVELL 1/32.What i have to do to make them Israel. You 1st need top decide on an era, then let us know. The A/C progress quite often, so it's best to find a photo of the a/c you want to build and build it to that pic, you just can't throw an answer to a blanket statement like yours,your going to get 100 different answers. I'm missing the point. What are you trying to prove with the multiple photos? I try to help a friend. This is all. I think it's simple to understand... <_< Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4scourge7 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I try to help a friend. This is all. I think it's simple to understand... <_< Hi Simone, I think numbering the parts and showing where they go on the various F-16 types in Israeli service is very useful. Thanks for the effort, it certainly helps clear-up the various configurations over the years. Excellent reference work Simone, I`m saving the pics you posted for a couple of F-16 builds I have for the new-year, thank you. Cheers, Ian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simone Macchia Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Hi Simone, I think numbering the parts and showing where they go on the various F-16 types in Israeli service is very useful. Thanks for the effort, it certainly helps clear-up the various configurations over the years. Excellent reference work Simone, I`m saving the pics you posted for a couple of F-16 builds I have for the new-year, thank you. Cheers, Ian Hi Ian, Thanks for your appreciation. I'm happy for that! Good modelling my friend! All the best. Simone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Netz Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Note that the antennas 1,1a and 2 are common communication antennas, and can be seen way back to early jets,antenna 1 was commonly found between the ventral strakes, but was moved forward. Antenna #3 is a GPS antenna and would only bee seen from the mid 90's onward (as GPS technology was not shared by the US), #4 Chaff Flair were not mounted on B model F-16's. Curt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pierre Sacha Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Hi guys, Sorry for my ignorance but what is R2-D2 doing sitting in an Israeli F-15D?? Seriously, at first I thought it's a building behind the aircraft but it seems to be part of the aircraft. (Speaking of the dome behind the canopy) :D Pierre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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