wardog Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 It's that time once again. As always, thanks to all that have left some feedback. A big thanks also to YF65_CH53E; always nice to receive feedback from those who've served and know the equipment well. On to the update. Finally completed a few more chapters in this never-ending saga. The ejection seats that for so long had me up against a wall are finally complete. Rather than scratch building seats, which at one time I believed was my only option, I ended up modifying a set by Aires and got them to just barely fit the Blackbox cockpit tub by sanding off the seat-sides completely and scratch building new ones out of .005 styrene. I kept details to a minimum to ensure the seats would fit, plus you can't see most of that detail anyway once installed. Of all the different manufacturers resin seats I had in my stash, the Aires looked to be the nicest of the bunch, with clean and crisp detail throughout. Needless to say, they still required a lot of extra work to get them to a point I was satisfied with. They're not perfect but they'll do the job. I also finished painting all the fuel tanks, including the buddy pod I built from a spare tank. I used the black-basing method for the first time and even though it took me way too much time to paint due to my inexperience, I'm happy with the results. I also decided to add a couple of MK20 Rockeye bombs to the MER that I had previously finished many years ago. Pics to follow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 Eduard MK20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuNo02100 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 You don’t know the agony of having a verbal description only! In all seriousness though, can’t wait to see the pics BW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 The last pic was loaded to confirm the issues I was having loading pics was resolved. Below are the rest of the pics. MK20s attached. The bombs have a bit more weathering than what shows up in the pics. I also used different shades of white for contrast. Fuel tank showing the black basing technique. Used various shades of gray, white and even brown on top of the black. Quite satisfied with the results considering it was my first time trying it. You just have to take it slow and be careful not to cover too much of the mottling. The topcoat also consists of various shades of gray and other colors along with enamel washes worked into the paint using mineral spirits. Buddy store. Scratch built this from a spare kit tank. Buddy store fins made from .002 brass sheet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Incredible work as always Elmo !! Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 More pics. Aires ejection seats. Here you can see a seat with the sides sanded off and the scratch-built sides. I purposely kept adding details to a minimum to ensure they'd fit in the narrow Blackbox tub. Black rivets on the sides are from Archer. Plastic coated wire (.015) used for the pull rings with yellow decal strips wrapped around. Amazing how much trial and error I went through to accomplish this seemingly simple task. But even after figuring out a suitable process, wrapping the decal around the wire and trying to maintain a constant angle and width between rings was very difficult. Seats all finished, or as finished as they're gonna get. I scratch built the oxygen hose fittings as well as the lap belts and harnesses, and a few other things. I first tried using Tamiya tape for the belts/harnesses but that yielded unrealistic results and was reluctant to maintain any curves or bends. At the suggestion of a friend, I tried foil which worked great. I used the type of foil that you find on the tops of wine bottles. The foil is very thin, so you have to be careful when handling it but otherwise It's easy to shape. Now It's time to drop them in and attach the mechanisms behind each seat. That's all I have for now. Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
utley Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 o0ooh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Stunning !! Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YF65_CH53E Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Elmo, I can smell the inside of the cockpit, and I can hear the sounds on the flight deck as this bird gets ready to go.....WOW. The ejector racks are a work of art by themselves. The buddy store looks like it just came up from the hangar deck right out of the storage racks, and the plane captain only had time to "wipe it down" prior to hanging it. From a guy who spent 33 years around Marine/Navy aviation I can safely say you hit the realism nail right on the head with your weathering techniques. Not over done by any means, as some weathering can get away from us, I know I am a victim of too dirty on my helicopter kits sometimes, but this weathering is right in there. USN/USMC line aircraft are dirty, weathered machines. The sunlight out on cruise is brutal on the gull grays/ghost grays of these aircraft. Combine that with the non-stop corrosion control of a salty sea environment, and viola you get a gray/gray splotchy mess. Not to mention, we paint the aircraft while underway, or deployed with what ever we have aboard. And, it does not always match....just sayin..... Again thank you for sharing this build, I have not followed it as long as some folks as I am new here, but I read every page from 1 to now 30. I am trying to be a better modeler because of the inspiration of your passion and dedication to your builds. r/Gunny Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Remarkable job on the seats, Elmo! The belts look incredible. How did you paint the fine stripes on the ejection handles? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 YF65_CH-53, did you really use aerosol cans that weren't the same FS numbers as the original gray for the touch-ups? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 crackerjazz, the stripes on the pull rings were created by winding a thin strip of yellow decal around black wire. There's no way I'd ever be able to paint lines of that size and achieve acceptable results. And for those of you sharp-eyed modelers out there, you'll notice the yellow stripes are angled in the wrong direction; they actually angle in the opposite direction on the real thing. I did them this way because it was easier for me to handle the wire while wrapping the decal and I figured in the grand scheme of things, it didn't really matter too much. The decal stripes were made by spray painting the clear (unpainted) carrier film from my spares stash with Tamiya gloss lacquer paint followed by a couple of coats of Future to seal them. The Future coat also helps prevent the yellow stripes from moving when I bent the wire to shape. Once the paint was dry on the decal, I cut thin strips using a single edge razor blade. Note: I tried Testors flat yellow, and Tamiya flat yellow first but they had a tendency to crack while winding the decal strip around the wire. Gunny Dan, thanks again for your kind feedback and for sharing your insight from your extensive naval aviation career. For those of us that have served in aviation, the smells are just one of many elements that are forever etched in our brains. Based on your experience, I'm glad my weathering effects look acceptable. As I've stated many times before, my painting skills are lacking because I tend to spend years detailing and very little time actually painting a model as a whole. In this case, I tried the black-basing technique for the first time but went about it rather slowly to control any errors I'd make along the way. Thanks again to all for checking in! -Elmo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Great update Elmo. The seats look terrific and will no doubt feature prominently on the finished model, given their visibility. Well done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aigore Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I am not worthy! That is unbelievably great...did you shrink a real jet? The detailing alone knocks me off my socks with the painting and weathering it is simply magic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coneheadff Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Fantastic Elmo, absolutely fantastic...as usual! I haven't been online here for a while, but every time I receive a notification that you posted an update, I'm immediately on the PC. It'd been a pleasure to follow from the beginning! Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 Thank you all for leaving your feedback and for sticking around for so many years while I try and finish this build. Once I install the seats the only major thing left is detailing the wingfolds! Once those are complete It's off to the paint shop and finishing her up......so maybe by 2023 if I'm lucky. Wow, only like 25 years to finish a model.....not too bad! -Elmo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Incaroad Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 About time for an update Elmo, Where ya at? STILL want to be the one to take the photo's! Cheers Larry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markiii Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 51 minutes ago, Incaroad said: About time for an update Elmo, Where ya at? STILL want to be the one to take the photo's! Cheers Larry +1 Hi Larry! Your photo of my QF-16 is my avatar. I'll be up to AVG Saturday! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 Hey Larry, how you been, been a long time. Update should be coming soon. She's in the paint barn as we speak. It's taking me a while to paint because of my lack of skill in that area. I'm making progress, and some mistakes, but I'm moving forward. Currently finishing the topcoat so she doesn't look like much right now; matter of fact you can't really even see the subtle shades under the topcoat due to the lighting. Hopefully I'll be able to pull off a half-fool decent paint job. That's all for now; I hope to have something a bit more meaningful in the coming weeks. Thanks for checking in, Larry. Cheers, E Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Great to see you back Elmo, she's looking good so far. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YF65_CH53E Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 Fantastic to see an update Elmo, I too am very new to the black basing, and I am watching and learning from your build! Gunny Dan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kike Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Way to go Elmo! I was afraid this had gotten lost in the shelf of doom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wardog Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 Thanks guys! Yes, the build is still progressing, just a slow pace which is normal for me. At this stage It's too late for the "shelf of doom"; I think for once I'm actually closer, than not to the finish line so it will get done. Gunny Dan, my biggest weakness in model building is definitely painting/weathering. I've only finished 2 models since getting back into this hobby, so I have a lot to learn. However, just like anything else, the more you do it the better you get, simply by learning what works, but more importantly, what doesn't. Thanks again for your comments. -Elmo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I am so glad you're picking this back up Elmo. I am trying my hand at wiring too. What you have done is beyond my brain's capacity already, but can you explain a bit more how you make all the intricate connectors and sleeves? I found that you responded to a similar question here: Is that primarily how you make all your connectors? Below, I wanted to bring up examples of your incredible work, I am curious about all the connectors, sleeves, looms, and bolt nuts. They are of many different sizes, and some look to be compound structures that you have built up by stacking up different sized ones. Drilling holes in solid round/hex rods sounds very time consuming and susceptible to issues (off-center drill puncturing the sides). I have tried stretching styrene tubes, but in my experience they become awfully brittle once stretched to the point that they always crack when I try to slice a ring off of it. I have found rubber electric wire insulation to be inconsistent and hard to work with. It'd be awesome if you could explain a bit more how you do all of it (making the connectors, glue you use etc.) Also, all your straight running wires are bent very cleanly. What materials are those straight wires? Lead deforms so easily that I think it's hard to keep them this straight. Stainless steel is hard to shape. Brass or aluminum is my guess, but anything you can share would be fantastic. Related to that, do you do all the bending and shaping off the plastic? My measly attempts have never worked 100%, so I always need to tweak some of the bends after they are glued, and that's where what would normally be a straight wire with clean bends becomes not so straight and square anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Janissary Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 As an example of what is jaw droppingly beautiful is this pic. Tied to my post above, so curious about the wire material, the T-connector, and how you keep all the straight sections that straight while creating super clean bends with a consistent offset from the plastic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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