sukoi Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Would it be possible to build a UBT, buy kit bashing your Fulcrum C conversion kit and the UB update kit? Call me crazy, but I like the looks of the UBT (304 blue and 52 blue) Edited January 24, 2012 by sukoi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sukhoi Su-27 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I was wondering the same thing because they are awesome :) I think all you need to change from exterior is to add refuel pod and add few antennas Although i dont have good picture of upper part of fuselage so i am not 100% sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zactoman Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Would it be possible to build a UBT, buy kit bashing your Fulcrum C conversion kit and the UB update kit?Call me crazy, but I like the looks of the UBT (304 blue and 52 blue) I can't say for certain as I lack good reference on the UBT, but I'm inclined to say no.Comparing the spine in these 2 pics, it appears that the UBT spine is fatter (taller) towards the rear between the v-stabs similar to an SMT. MiG-29UBT (9-52) MiG-29 (9-13) Fulcrum C Also note that the UBT has the late model air brake/beaver tail as on the MiG-29M but has the early model, fatter LERX as on the MiG-29A or UB. Note that "blue 52" still has the chaff dispensers as on a MiG-29A where "blue 304" has them removed as on the UB. Yes, it could be built but it would require some bashing/scratch-building. I don't think the Fulcrum-C spine would be any help to you. I'd start with the UB kit, add my upgrades (MiG-29A for "Blue 52" or MiG-29UB for "blue 304"), splice a Trump M or K air brake or scratch one and scratch a new spine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sukhoi Su-27 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 This is UBT from failed Algerian contract that entered VVS later with SMTs. Notice the spine here, its not like on SMT or earlier UBT, its like standard UB Still question is, how airbrake looks on this one I was refering to this UBTs when said in my previous post about refuel pod and antennas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sukoi Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 To Sukhoi Su-27 The UBK just give the modeller more variety when it comes to weapons, but the UB is alot more prevalent. itake it that is why you were wondering about the UBK? I have not been keeping up to date with my Migs, the one in your pictures seems to be a simpler conversion, wonder if it still has short legs? I would agree that it is just the addition of Chris's UB upgrade and a few scracthed or scavenged parts for the refueling pod. But, being the sceptic I am, I can't help but wonder if there is anything else needed. Would you happpen to know the designation of the aircraft? Want to do a bit of searching and maybe even start a post on the particular machine. To Chris I have gone over the ref's I have and you are correct (obviously), building blue 52 or 304 would entail quite a bit of work, lol, something I am not up to at the moment. An order for a few bits and bobs will be coming your way soon, and if I have not said it before, thanks for doing what you do! Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Original upgrade, known as MiG-29UBT, didn't have 9.13 fueltank, but SMT type fueltank. It had OKB destination 9-52 The one which is in service in Russian Airforce is standard frame with refuel probe, new cockpit (unified with SMT cockpit), some new antennas and slim lights. Destination of it is not UBT. Russianplanes.net calls it just MiG-29UB (9-53), which is the correct name. Standard production code for UB is 51. 9-53 has standard airbrake. PS: To add, they also carry flares, like on 9-13 and so on. Edited January 25, 2012 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sukhoi Su-27 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Hm, intressting, i always thought that one i posted pics is actually UBT, guess there is always something new to learn :) It would be nice if someone can post some pictures of that 9-53 version where upper fuselage is seen Here are few good pics though but none from above http://russianplanes.net/EN/ST/Mikoyan-Gurevich/MiG-29UB_(9-53) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sukoi Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Good grief!! The plot thickens Very good to know, this bit of info brings me closer to my goal. Thank you Berkut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 No problem, glad to help. Regarding top picture, i don't have one in my "vaults" either. I know a thread where i might find some, will try to take a look today. But i doubt you will see anything interesting there, other than camo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I have looked high and low, and not found any pictures showing topside. The closest ones were of one of them in approach, with picture taken from behind. Haven't seen any cockpit pictures either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sukoi Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 I have looked high and low, and not found any pictures showing topside. The closest ones were of one of them in approach, with picture taken from behind. Haven't seen any cockpit pictures either. Thanks anyhow Berkut, much appriciated. I will order the bit and bobs from Chris and get started. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sukoi Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 I have looked high and low, and not found any pictures showing topside. The closest ones were of one of them in approach, with picture taken from behind. Haven't seen any cockpit pictures either. Would any of those pics contain any armed aircraft? Need to know if I could arm my bird with Zacto boom sticks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 None that i have. Considering the bird doesn't have radar, the choices are limited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonal Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Hi Sukoi, will follow your build with much interest. Tonal Edited February 2, 2012 by tonal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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