streetstream Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) I've got these at my LHS. They were the only copies he got. Looking to score 2 more. One of these will be build into a EL-AL 747 Cargo (the one involved in de Bijlmer disaster). It will be a tribute, but that won't be for a couple of years. One will be build as a old livery Sabena. I hope to find 2 more to be build into a Pan Am clipper and another into a KLM (don't know yet what livery). BTW i paid 35,6€ for the 2, so that is just great. I opend one, aand it is exactly like the old kit, including the stand and nice decals. Edited February 1, 2012 by streetstream Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lancer512 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 So the kit is out yet? GREAT!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFlyingDutchman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Please post a picture of the decal sheet! I really want to see it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
streetstream Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Please post a picture of the decal sheet! I really want to see it! Here they are. I hope these will do. Otherwise, just let me know and i will snap some more pictures tommorow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheFlyingDutchman Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Eeehhh.... okay? That was quite a deception. On Airlinercafe I read a post saying that this was the most complete airliner sheet that DACO has ever done :huh: I was hoping on a bunch of stencilling decals and clear cabin window decals with aluminium frames. This decal is almost useless when you want to put another livery on the model, even the doors don't fit any livery but the E-4B one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrblujet Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Is this a single-fuselage or does this kit have two fuselage halves? In other words, is this kit like the Dragon Braniff 747 that just recently came out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
streetstream Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Is this a single-fuselage or does this kit have two fuselage halves? In other words, is this kit like the Dragon Braniff 747 that just recently came out? It has 2 halves. As for shape, is a nice kit, but it is old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FokkerFan Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Hmmm, indeed. The sheet is not like what we are used from him. Let's be glad however that the 747-200 is available again. And let's hope that Danny will make the decals for Revell's release of the 747-8i. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
streetstream Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Hmmm, indeed. The sheet is not like what we are used from him. Let's be glad however that the 747-200 is available again. And let's hope that Danny will make the decals for Revell's release of the 747-8i. Well maybe they tried to keep costs down, because let's fac it, it's a lot of plane for just 17€. Just looking at the fuselagehalves gives me goosebumps. THIS IS A 747. Now the challenge will be to either find JT9D engines or make them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Somebody needs to create early and later style JT9D masters in CAD, then have them output on a 3D printer to use for resin masters. Heck, you could do proper CF6s and Rolls Royces as well... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrblujet Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Well, whoever decides to come out with a resin PW JT9D, it is going to have to be Contrails or someone else. I was told by my local distributor that BraZ got tired of all the whining and complaining that people were making over the quality and accuracy of their resin engines that they decided to discontinue manufacturing them. Someone over at airlinercafe.com mentioned that this E-4B kit was going to have both the GE and PW engines. Apparently that is not the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TommyP Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Well, whoever decides to come out with a resin PW JT9D, it is going to have to be Contrails or someone else. I was told by my local distributor that BraZ got tired of all the whining and complaining that people were making over the quality and accuracy of their resin engines that they decided to discontinue manufacturing them. I'm afraid this is part of our hobby that I cannot stand. People are so quick to critisise releases these days. What frustrates me even more about these 'armchair experts' is that they are not forthcoming with their own releases... they just sit there and critisise. Surely if they are the experts, then they should release their own kits. Another thing (whilst I'm ranting) is that we are modellers. To me, that may mean getting the sandpaper out and reshaping something a little, or heaven forbid... even use some filler! I think the days of working away at a subject to get a decent result are over; many 'modern' modellers just want to throw the glue in, give it a shake and out comes the perfect model. I can only imagine their disgust if a vacform was put in front of them! At the end of the day, if you don't like a particular subject or the way it has been manufactured, then don't buy it. Don't sit there and critisise it as manufactuers may well 'pull the plug.' And if they are so 'expert'... release their own models or after-market parts. There we are, rant over. And for the record, I've used many of BraZ's products and I have found them nothing other than excellent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
streetstream Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) I'm afraid this is part of our hobby that I cannot stand. People are so quick to critisise releases these days. What frustrates me even more about these 'armchair experts' is that they are not forthcoming with their own releases... they just sit there and critisise. Surely if they are the experts, then they should release their own kits. Another thing (whilst I'm ranting) is that we are modellers. To me, that may mean getting the sandpaper out and reshaping something a little, or heaven forbid... even use some filler! I think the days of working away at a subject to get a decent result are over; many 'modern' modellers just want to throw the glue in, give it a shake and out comes the perfect model. I can only imagine their disgust if a vacform was put in front of them! At the end of the day, if you don't like a particular subject or the way it has been manufactured, then don't buy it. Don't sit there and critisise it as manufactuers may well 'pull the plug.' And if they are so 'expert'... release their own models or after-market parts. There we are, rant over. And for the record, I've used many of BraZ's products and I have found them nothing other than excellent. You are right. If you want to do moddeling, do the work. I am thinking that maybe, with some good drawing, one could scratchbuild the engines. P.S.: anyone know why my images aren't showing anyumore? Edited February 3, 2012 by streetstream Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Commander Botha Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hi Guys, Here's a late entry to the chat about this new 747-200. I just finished using Flying Colors Decals Boeing 747 windows, doors and details on a -400, and they were absolutely fabulous. The decal sheet can be used for ALL 747's. The only thing I would have liked is separate aluminium surrounds and windows so I didn't have to fill them in with putty. For the stencils Revell may be able to supply you with the Lufthansa decal sheet from their existing 747-400 kit. Not sure if they would charge for them, but it would have most of what is needed. As for the Braz resin engines, I've used them as well, and while they needed a bit of work, they look great.What resin doesn't need a bit of work!!!!! I have not used anything from Contrails so can't comment on those, but they look nice in the web. I agree there is too many people complaining about every little issue they can!!! I still need to post some of my builds here!!! Cheers for now and keep up the great airliner work, Jarrod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The only thing I would have liked is separate aluminium surrounds and windows so I didn't have to fill them in with putty. Except for the fact that the kit windows are the wrong size, shape, and spacing... that's why decal windows came about in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FokkerFan Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I'm afraid this is part of our hobby that I cannot stand. People are so quick to critisise releases these days. What frustrates me even more about these 'armchair experts' is that they are not forthcoming with their own releases... they just sit there and critisise. Surely if they are the experts, then they should release their own kits.Another thing (whilst I'm ranting) is that we are modellers. To me, that may mean getting the sandpaper out and reshaping something a little, or heaven forbid... even use some filler! I think the days of working away at a subject to get a decent result are over; many 'modern' modellers just want to throw the glue in, give it a shake and out comes the perfect model. I can only imagine their disgust if a vacform was put in front of them!At the end of the day, if you don't like a particular subject or the way it has been manufactured, then don't buy it. Don't sit there and critisise it as manufactuers may well 'pull the plug.' And if they are so 'expert'... release their own models or after-market parts.There we are, rant over. And for the record, I've used many of BraZ's products and I have found them nothing other than excellent. Yay! TommyP for president! I totally agree with you. If you don't like to put some work in the model, then just buy the Herpa, Gemini etc. diecast models. They are quite accurate these days, so if you want everything to be perfect, just go that way. Moreover, I can't imagine that Braz Models is a multi million dollar business, so they can't put a lot of resources in there products. Let's be happy that they take the efforts of producing engines etc. that do not come with a kit. I just received a parcel yesterday containing "supposedly" DC-10 GE engines manufactured by Starr miniatures. Well, they don't look like them and they guy I purchased them from warned me for that. And guess what, you won't hear me moaning about it. In fact Revell's DC-10 engines are also not the best, so I will just try to make the best of it. Except for the fact that the kit windows are the wrong size, shape, and spacing... that's why decal windows came about in the first place. OK, that may be true. But when trying to make an accurate model, using filled grey windows isn't realistic either. Atleast, I have never seen an airplane in real life of which the wondows were grey. So is there actually a right solution for this "problem"?? I think it is not worth starting a discussion on this topic, it is just a matter of personal taste. Going back to the real topic, Streetstream, could you upload pictures of the GE engines supplied by Revell? I have never seen these nor found pictures on the web of them. Maybe I can help you out with some JT9D engines from one of my 742 kits. Just have to check in the shed, but as you know it's quite cold outside now. Happy modelling everybody. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Eeehhh.... okay? That was quite a deception. On Airlinercafe I read a post saying that this was the most complete airliner sheet that DACO has ever done :huh: I was hoping on a bunch of stencilling decals and clear cabin window decals with aluminium frames. This decal is almost useless when you want to put another livery on the model, even the doors don't fit any livery but the E-4B one. Well, Duh! It is a kit of an E-4 afterall so of course the doors are only going to fit the E-4. There are plenty of aftermarket decals to choose from for doing other 747s though. I'll bet I could do something with these engines if I do the method of sawing the cowl behind the fan, building the cowl front half as one piece, mounting the fan then blending into the back half of the engine. Its been done before with a little modeling skill and TLC, so why not do it again? I anticipate this going to be a big seller here in Omaha once they come out in the states, considering we have two of the birds at Offutt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dunelimo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Talking about engines on 747-2 any one know what engines are on this This Qantas seems to be a bit of an ood ball, wrong strip, wrong color, wrong tail logo and Qantas in the wrong color Mike Edited February 4, 2012 by Dunelimo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FokkerFan Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Hi Mike, These are GE CF6 engines. Reason why it is an odd ball is because the plane belongs to Martinair. Look at the registration PH-MCF. Hence the color is different and the cheatline is Martinair's original livery. IIRC it was leased to QF somewhere in the late 80's. Actually it is even more of an odd ball because it is one of only two 747-200's in pax configuration that I know of that have the 747-400 wing body fairing. The other one is an ANA bird and there are a few 747-200F's that have this feature as well. So if you would like to build this bird, you will also need to source a 747-400. Regards, Ingmar Edited February 4, 2012 by FokkerFan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
streetstream Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Going back to the real topic, Streetstream, could you upload pictures of the GE engines supplied by Revell? Happy modelling everybody. I hope i can do that early tommorow because i'm not home at the moment. In the mean time our friends at britmoddeler have some sprue shots. The pictures aren't the best quality, but you can get a first look. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234912100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woody71 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I'm afraid this is part of our hobby that I cannot stand. People are so quick to critisise releases these days. What frustrates me even more about these 'armchair experts' is that they are not forthcoming with their own releases... they just sit there and critisise. Surely if they are the experts, then they should release their own kits. Another thing (whilst I'm ranting) is that we are modellers. To me, that may mean getting the sandpaper out and reshaping something a little, or heaven forbid... even use some filler! I think the days of working away at a subject to get a decent result are over; many 'modern' modellers just want to throw the glue in, give it a shake and out comes the perfect model. I can only imagine their disgust if a vacform was put in front of them! At the end of the day, if you don't like a particular subject or the way it has been manufactured, then don't buy it. Don't sit there and critisise it as manufactuers may well 'pull the plug.' And if they are so 'expert'... release their own models or after-market parts. There we are, rant over. And for the record, I've used many of BraZ's products and I have found them nothing other than excellent. Whilst I partly agree with you, if someone has purchased after market accessories to replace the kit ones, irrespective of their own ability to produce them, they are at liberty to offer feedback on their purchase, especially when they are aimed at improving the kit. Typically we purchase such items because we don't have the ability or desire to produce our own so I don't agree with this part of your statement. If you aren't aware of the quality before you buy, it's difficult to decide not to buy. This is where honest reviews come in. I also use their stuff, however my VC10's have a few oval engine intakes that I've decided to live with ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lancer512 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Got my kit yesterday. Same plastic as the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft, but with CF-6 Engines and parts for the E-4B. Here are some shots of the contents as they came out of the box: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marv Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I'm afraid this is part of our hobby that I cannot stand. People are so quick to critisise releases these days. What frustrates me even more about these 'armchair experts' is that they are not forthcoming with their own releases... they just sit there and critisise. Surely if they are the experts, then they should release their own kits. Another thing (whilst I'm ranting) is that we are modellers. To me, that may mean getting the sandpaper out and reshaping something a little, or heaven forbid... even use some filler! I think the days of working away at a subject to get a decent result are over; many 'modern' modellers just want to throw the glue in, give it a shake and out comes the perfect model. I can only imagine their disgust if a vacform was put in front of them! At the end of the day, if you don't like a particular subject or the way it has been manufactured, then don't buy it. Don't sit there and critisise it as manufactuers may well 'pull the plug.' And if they are so 'expert'... release their own models or after-market parts. There we are, rant over. And for the record, I've used many of BraZ's products and I have found them nothing other than excellent. The Revell E-4B kit engines, with a little TLC: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FokkerFan Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Thanks for sharing the pictures guys. I see there is still a lot of flash to beremoved. @ Marv: Have you opened the exhaust cones at the back? From the Lancer512's pictures I conclude that they are closed at the back. Your engines look very good by the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Streetstream Could it be that you have gone over your bandwith for the photos hence I cannot see them... Good work what I did see though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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