dylan Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) picked this set up from the LHS today apparently the Great wall hobby kit of the P-61 has some flaws (surprise). the cowling openings are too small and the props aren't too great I was only planning on replacing the props, but the LHS only had the set for the cowlings and props. and for 12 bucks i really couldn't loose....or could I here's what you get two cowlings 2 sets of prop hubs and a crankcases 2 sets of distributor's and prop governors 2 sets of 4 prop blades, one had broken off of each of these but everything was undamaged the quality of the casting is perfect and there is no warpage on any of the parts Edited February 4, 2012 by dylan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) so how could anyone complain about the set.....well remember the cowling? its really good but there is that really big casting plug how the hell are you supposed to remove that? I tried to lightly score around the plug with my olfa P-cutter but then disaster struck the p-cutter poked through and snapped off a bit of the cowling very frustrating. compared to the kit cowling the TD one is pretty much the same except for a larger opening and another line scribed on the front ring. it shouldn't be too much work to modify the kit cowlings. I recommend for anyone thinking about getting this set, to just replace the props and modify the kit cowlings. you will save yourself a few headaches. and removing the casting plugs will probably take just as long as it will to modify the kit cowlings. Edited February 4, 2012 by dylan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nineoniner Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 You could have drilled the plug :D No but seriously.. the cowling resin set is just a waste of money, that's how I see it. Nothing that a bit of sandpaper won't fix after working 10 minutes with the kits cowlings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Those are bogus. There was no research done before they were produced. That is just a poorly modified and reproduced kit part. Edited February 4, 2012 by Otto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 and a quick google search shows that the engine crank case is totally bogus as well here is the one from the TD set and the real one at least i can use the resin magnetos and prop governor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robertson Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) You are wrong about the crankcase: True detail has got it right in that the real crankcase inside a P-61 in service is faired over with a cylindrical fairing which is the whole point of their (and Vector's) offering. The True Detail cowls are correct as well, but the pouring plug makes them useless apparently: Buy the outstanding Vector cowl and engine set instead, which does offer all this and much more with far easier work (no massive pouring plug anywhere). Sprue Brothers has got them for cheap (around $20) and Vector offers with it the cowl flaps, the whole engine, and the front of the booms which are corrected in surface details, flaps and grilles and such. Quality is outstanding and the props are available separately as well. All this will fit both kits. I can recommend the Vector resin canopy as well, but they are not made for the GW (can probably be adapted). Modifying the kit cowlings is not any easier for most of us than drawing a perfect circle with your first try... Unless you have a series of gradually enlarging sandpaper cylinders of exact size, it can be frustrating... Robertson Edited February 4, 2012 by Robertson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nightiemission Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 The TD "crank case" is correct. It fairs in the spinner. It's merely a sleave to fair in the spinner. When MAAM's '61 is done it will have those sleaves as well. I do agree about the cowl, however. Cheers, Terry (certifiable P-61 NUT!!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 I stand corrected then thanks for the info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 i took a look at some other pictures on the web. Besides the small opening on the GW cowls, the shape looks right. This would mean that just making the hole bigger in the kit cowls would be just fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 does anyone have pictures of the aerodynamic fairing attached to the front of the engine? and should I cut off the prop shaft from the resin bit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KSL Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 does anyone have pictures of the aerodynamic fairing attached to the front of the engine? Here you are: Grilles behind the cowl: Also, note that exhaust pipes should be dual: And finally Vector set (sorry for shameless promotion ) : Sergey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 thanks Sergey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.C. Bahr Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Is this part of the MAAM's widow? Just curious where this shot was taken as that accessory section has sure corroded into a pile of pebbles!!!! :blink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KSL Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Is this part of the MAAM's widow? Yes. Sergey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Space Tiger Hobbes Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Since someone brought it up, how do you mount the Vector engines? I'd be interested if I dont' have to build a scale frame or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Did anyone buy the new Quickboost cowling set yet? I was going to use a set on my Monogram kit. $11 for the set is a nice price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 ... And finally Vector set (sorry for shameless promotion ) : ... Sergey. I have several of your engines and I find them just stunning. Truly outstanding work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Since someone brought it up, how do you mount the Vector engines? I'd be interested if I dont' have to build a scale frame or something. Bump.... Same question here (although for a different aircraft). Short of having to grind off the rear of the the vector engine and glue it to the plastic bulkhead of my kit, how are you supposed to install these? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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