JEN722 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I am talking about the chord, not the thickness. Jens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, JEN722 said: I am talking about the chord, not the thickness. Jens I realize that. I’m just raising another, lesser discussed issue that also affects the appearance of the tail. The OP asked generally what areas of the kit could be improved upon/accurized. Edited January 8, 2023 by RichB63 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 hours ago, JEN722 said: The HB F-105D tail is ok. It's the G tail that needs a leading edge enlargement. Jens Got it now Jens, Thanks, Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, serendip said: What would be a typical loadout for a Vietnam era Wild Weasel? AGM-78 but in combination with what? I'm guessing not with AGM-65's? Hi Marc, An F-105G in full “beast mode” would sport two AGM-45 Shrikes, a single AGM-78 Standard and two external fuel tanks, configured asymmetrically as seen here: Edited January 8, 2023 by RichB63 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 2/8/2021 at 12:06 PM, JEN722 said: I have been working on the HB F-105G for some time. These are the things I corrected/improved: - Removed large ECM blisters on fuselage (I am building an early F-105G). - Replaced consoles etc. in the cockpit (my next HB F-105 will have a resin pit). - Replaced the fat ventral fin with one from Quickboost and added details around that area. - Increased the tail fin chord by simply adding a piece of plastic card on the leading edge and forming the leading edge with Tamiya putty. - Modified the intake on the belly (the HB item looks a bit shallow). - Scratchbuilt new wing pylons from plastic card. - Replaced weapons with Hasegawa items. - Added belly straps from adhesive aluminum foil. https://www.amarc.dk/images/models/F-105G_HB48_01.jpg https://www.amarc.dk/images/models/F-105G_HB48_02.jpg https://www.amarc.dk/images/models/F-105G_HB48_05.jpg https://www.amarc.dk/images/models/F-105G_HB48_03.jpg https://www.amarc.dk/images/models/F-105G_HB48_06.jpg https://www.amarc.dk/images/models/F-105G_HB48_07.jpg https://www.amarc.dk/images/models/F-105G_HB48_08.jpg Jens Jens, Lovely work and thanks for the heads - up regarding the 'G tail. I'm shamelessly copying your approach and grafting in a piece of plasticard to get the profile right. However, I'd also like to get the panel lines right on the tail. Would you happen to have any information on the different panel set up between the 'G and the 'D so I can get the scribing done correctly which I love so much (not). Thanks, Marc. Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Hi all, Also some more general questions for which all help would be appreciated. The nose profile on the kit does indeed not look correct - can anyone push me in the direction of any builds that address this? Should the gear be coloured steel or white on Vietnam era 'G's? (and the wells zinc chromate green / yellow) A link to any good builds would also be appreciated - I'm not finding too much unfortunatly. Nice kit though - just finished the Tamiya F-14, so nice to get my hands dirty again. Thanks all, enjoy the weekend, Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nathant Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Silver gear legs and green zinc chromate landing gear door insides. Except possibly the inner most main gear door sometimes got over sprayed with the exterior belly color of camouflage gray. White gear and bays were post war. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Thanks for the help Nathant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 One-Oh-Four, are you OK with me asking these questions on your thread? If not let me know, I'll start up a new one. Thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scorvi Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Perhaps someone should make a correction set for the HB kit?? Cast up your corrections in resin. They may sell well. I built both Monogram and HB kits in the D config. Both have their respective plus and minuses. However I would like to build an earlier F and that leaves me with my ancient inaccurate Monogram kit....as a starting point. Some other Monogram kit [myth or no myth] -1/48 Panther Still my favorite the debate goes on which is better Monogram vs. Trumpeter/Hobbycraft -1/48 F-101B Monogram vs Kittycrap...in this case the Monogram is the better kit for $$ a& rarity alone since a KH kit is quite expensive now if you can find one..But overall both kits are pretty good..KH edging out with the new tooling but has some weird mistakes -1/48 F-100D Now this one is loaded THE Monogram kit has a lot of love but does have a few issues ...the Newer Trumpyboss kit is NOT bad either and both kits are about parity in price I rec. Trumpy w/ the caveat of corrections .... Better yet combine Trumpy and Monogram -1/48 F-102 Well you have NO choice like Henry Ford said you can have any color as long as its Black You can have any 1/48 Dagger as long as it is Monogram...They arent bad kits but have a few corrections...if you can get the Encore models with a the tons of resin if you can find one?? good starting point Also depends if you need a Case X or XX wing ??? -1/48 F-106 the newer tool Trumpy is the better starting point unless you love the therapeutic work of rescribing panle lines [BTW- it is like individual track link assembly in armor modeling]. I made the older Monogram kit many moons ago and rescribed it...not bad kit at all but superseded by the Trumpy ...esp. now with the two seater too!! Monogram is king...1/48 is by far THE F/P-80 since the alternative [Hobbypuss] is an overpriced kit that is a cartoon character of a Shooting Star. Monogram is the only way to go for this bird in 1/48. Some good resin out there for the Monogram kit too. Esp. CE if you can find it. But BB and others did some nice details Steve, Edited January 15, 2023 by scorvi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JEN722 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 As for an F-105F (or early F-105G) it is quite easy to remove the ECM bulges from the HB kit. I did that on mine. Jens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scorvi Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) True But I already have the F kit in the stash .... it was I think a kings ransom of $5.00 at a show a few years back. I also have a nice set of the Brass landing gears from the CE...hard to find now but essential due to the unsturdyness of this bird in 1/48. Alos ahve a set of ancient KMC resin seats whicha rent bad. Question........ Do you think it is worth it to adopt the NEW Quinta Interior decals [F-105G] for the F?? IT sure looks nice BUT I think I would have to modify the Rear IP .. W/O references on hand I dont know exactly what?? https://www.hobbynutmodels.com/products/f_105g_3d_printed_coloured_interior_on_decal_paper_for_hobbyboss_kit_ If anyone want to cast up corrections for the nose or tail area or even the ventral fin I would be interested in buying or trading for good casts for my Monogram build?? Even a new set of pylons wold be greatly appreciated!?! Steve, Edited January 15, 2023 by scorvi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sigtau Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 23 hours ago, scorvi said: True But I already have the F kit in the stash .... it was I think a kings ransom of $5.00 at a show a few years back. I also have a nice set of the Brass landing gears from the CE...hard to find now but essential due to the unsturdyness of this bird in 1/48. Alos ahve a set of ancient KMC resin seats whicha rent bad. Question........ Do you think it is worth it to adopt the NEW Quinta Interior decals [F-105G] for the F?? IT sure looks nice BUT I think I would have to modify the Rear IP .. W/O references on hand I dont know exactly what?? https://www.hobbynutmodels.com/products/f_105g_3d_printed_coloured_interior_on_decal_paper_for_hobbyboss_kit_ If anyone want to cast up corrections for the nose or tail area or even the ventral fin I would be interested in buying or trading for good casts for my Monogram build?? Even a new set of pylons wold be greatly appreciated!?! Steve, As far as corrections you mentioned: - Dmold made nose corrections for both Monogram and Hobbyboss kits. They are on hiatus due to the Russian banking situation. - Quickboost makes a ventral fin correction set - Reskit is working on a new vertical fin for the HB G model (they also make a nice afterburner set for both kits) - Phase hanger released a new pylon set, external tanks coming soon. - Flight line resin has a few ordinance bits, including a standard missile and launch rail. - Aires makes cockpits and wheel bay sets for all four versions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Could anyone point me in the direction of some pictures of the rear cockpit bulkheads? I'd like to put in some wiring, make it look a bit busier. Thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Also can anyone advise which (if any) of the Reskit sets can be used for the 'G? https://reskit-models.com/scale-plastic-model-kits?product_id=2551 https://reskit-models.com/scale-plastic-model-kits?product_id=2552 Thanks, Marc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
serendip Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, serendip said: Also can anyone advise which (if any) of the Reskit sets can be used for the 'G? https://reskit-models.com/scale-plastic-model-kits?product_id=2551 https://reskit-models.com/scale-plastic-model-kits?product_id=2552 Thanks, Marc. The only difference I can see is the nosewheel with eight spokes on the 'G, twelve on the 'F and eight on the 'D also. It would appear (appear being the key word here) that D equals G. Is that correct anybody? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sigtau Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 12 hours ago, serendip said: The only difference I can see is the nosewheel with eight spokes on the 'G, twelve on the 'F and eight on the 'D also. It would appear (appear being the key word here) that D equals G. Is that correct anybody? Seems like a case of check your references. I think the 8 spoke wheel is the early one and the 12 spoke is the later version. Most reference photos I see for the D through G models have the higher spoke count. https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196044/republic-f-105g-thunderchief/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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