Bigasshammm Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Anyone have a good sharp picture of the B-17 manufacturer stencil on the nose? Showing the serial and the model number and whatnot. I need a good picture so I can have it modified for a custom decal. Can't find anything in my resources. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 See Ike of 91 BG . Note Boeing used an OD decal of the basic components long iinto NMF era of B-17/29 production. The PROJ NO. Was a means of allocating product to theater commands. The second position is a significant digit indicating the location. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rightwinger26 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Is this what your looking for Hamm my Fortress addicted friend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Is this what your looking for Hamm my Fortress addicted friend? That's the one thanks. What can I say, it's in my blood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Hmm it's saving weird to my computer. Anyone got a nice crisp shot of one on a NMF 17? Doesn't matter if it's a restored bird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Search 91 bg gen like do not recommend restoration. few include mod center block chance the project number a.x the deal or type far e of the standard elements vs specifics. go see like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sample provided without refernce to anything else on its face value is an ETO REPLACEMENT (-R) circa end of CY 43 + or -. Is this real or restored? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Obviously my program is making unrequested spell checks. Sorry for the garrble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Obviously my program is making unrequested spell checks. Sorry for the garrble. I was starting to wonder! I'll keep searching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rightwinger26 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 That was the info block on Mary Alice in Duxford, I believe she is a static display. I'll look through all my stuff Hamm and see if I have an NMF picture. Geez, give a guy a little and he wants the moon!!!! :D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meindert Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 May be of interest for scale modellers; the B-17 Walk arounds on the IPMS.NL website. Look at the IPMS.NL walkaround page for more than 50 walkarounds.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Glad to know I cand still spot a forgry even as professional as Duxford from the genuine. The clues are there to the trained eye. For one the whole block is done at the same time with equal weight. There are other absences too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 May be of interest for scale modellers; the B-17 Walk arounds on the IPMS.NL website. Look at the IPMS.NL walkaround page for more than 50 walkarounds.... Excellent reference!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prop Duster Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Hmm it's saving weird to my computer. Anyone got a nice crisp shot of one on a NMF 17? Doesn't matter if it's a restored bird. on "save as"; save it as a .bit file and the long narrows will be gone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Try this again. For a very good war time example do a search on 91 BG Nmf. B-17G. General Ike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-17 guy Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b-17/41-2520/b17-serial-number.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 The B-17E sample is very clear but not very representative in that it is from before many war-time elements were added. Do note the heavy brush applied paint of the last foour tapering from left to right. Also it appers that perhaps the fuel restriction is already a decal with some silvering over flat camo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Here's a shot over at historylink101 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Compare the B-17F detail from historylink to the previous G a replication and the E series historical example. Note the updated terminology between the E. And F examples. Also note that the indivdial a/c info is beyond the frame in the F example and that the corners are rounded on this standardized portion. Ford B-24H & J are similarly treated for the standarized portion. This portion is in decal form in some production periods. The indivdual information more often is in cut block stenciling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
100th BG Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 And just to confuse the issue, Vega put the decal for the fuel information in a different location: Photo courtesy of Ray Bowden Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Boeing late-production stencil: Douglas decals: Edited March 11, 2012 by PGB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 And just to confuse the issue, Vega put the decal for the fuel information in a different location: Photo courtesy of Ray Bowden Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Nice variety of samples in the PGB POST. The 70-DL example may sill be partically decal. The high 92xxx 800 & 900 series project nos. Are indicative of late enCY 1944 allocation to the ETO. By early 1945 the series rolled over to 93xxx in the ETO AND FROM 90XXX TO 91XXX IN THE MTO & CBI. Note on the Vega F series in the next post ...Laden Maiden that the 4" blend is above the pitot mast. This ia also true for all but the earlest F-DL. The Boeing style run to the bottom of the pitot mast. For those of you separateing BG INVENTORIES BY NAME and series number this is a useful delineator and cross check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PGB Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 A few more... Vega block 25 B-17G stencil with 100 octane fuel decal: Boeing block 40 B-17G stencil: Boeing block 40 B-17G decal & stencil: Douglas block 35 B-17G Decal with individual numbers: All the best, Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil marchese Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Excellent selection. Note the Vega stencle is set up for block 20 & 25 with the 42-97 as part of the basic . See the heavy 5 and light last three. This is fairly early in VE NMF era which changed over in the mid 500 ( blk mid 15 or 20). Edited March 12, 2012 by Phil marchese Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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