Modeler7 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 When ARC Discussion Board came back on line, this was the first thread I went to. Manfred, there are few out there with the guts to take on such a large project. When you are finished you should really think of donating it to a real space museum. It is just amazing work you have been doing! I would hate to think the project stuffed in a closet. Amazing work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Thanks my faithful friend for your nice compliment. This may be, because such a major project is a real challenge and requires again and again new motivation and endless patience to never give up. BTW, don't worry, our house is big enough so that the diorama will find a suitable place, if it will be finished one day ... Edited October 28, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowe-t Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Manfred, It was great having the forum back and seeing more of your magnificent work. Keep it up and I know it will be finished one day. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mkjm Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I've been taking a look at this thread for weeks now. Such amazing attention to detail! You sir have more patience than I could ever muster! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 5 hours ago, spaceman said: Thanks my faithful friend for your nice compliment. This may be, because such a major project is a real challenge and requires again and again new motivation and endless patience to never give up. BTW, don't worry, our house is big enough so that the diorama will find a suitable place, if it will be finished one day ... How big will the entire diorama be???? Growing up on the Space Coast I have a special affinity for the Shuttle, and watching your work has been a blast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 5 hours ago, crowe-t said: Manfred, It was great having the forum back and seeing more of your magnificent work. Keep it up and I know it will be finished one day. Mike. Thanks Mike for watching again after the break. As you know I have no deadline, but one fine day I will have fulfilled my dream. Stay tuned my friend and keep your fingers crossed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 hours ago, crushkill said: How big will the entire diorama be???? Growing up on the Space Coast I have a special affinity for the Shuttle, and watching your work has been a blast The diorama is planned around this area and would then be approx. 1.5 m x 1.3 m (1:160) ... Source: google.com/maps Then it could look similar to this diorama by Tomytec (1:700). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, spaceman said: The diorama is planned around this area and would then be approx. 1.5 m x 1.3 m (1:160) ... Source: google.com/maps Then it could look similar to this diorama by Tomytec (1:700). Wow. Can't wait til it's done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Until then, some time still will go by, so be patient and stay tuned my friend! Edited October 28, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) I've been watching your progress on NasaSpaceFlight and your skill at, not only building these details, but at building these details at such a tiny scale, is true eye-candy. I hope that translates correctly! And Tomytec's diorama is incredible!! Thanx for showing it! Thanx Manfred!! Edited October 15, 2016 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) Thanks Pete for your nice compliments and for watching again. Here one can see some more details of Tomytec's diorama which is long sold out. Edited November 4, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bubble Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) I have them also , the soyuz and shuttle version , i want do in april 2017 one of them , but i,m practice with my new mirco welder . the soyus pad is also nice with train :) Edited October 16, 2016 by bubble Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 Is the Soyus pad also 1:700? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bubble Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 yep http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10300892 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) On 14.10.2016 at 7:38 PM, mkjm said: I've been taking a look at this thread for weeks now. Such amazing attention to detail! You sir have more patience than I could ever muster! Thanks mkjm for watching, yep, never ending patience and enough fun are absolutely necessary in such a long-term project if it is ever to succeed. Edited November 4, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my favs are F`s Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I kinda remember a well known phrase, which was something like... "It's the journey that's important, not the destination". :) Indeed everything is important, especially the small details :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Thanks for your nice words. I fully agree with you and know this proverb too: The journey is the destination. Edited November 4, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Hello everybody, today I will now finally complete the connecting piece of the second supply pipe, on which still lacked the rectangular rib pairs and the triangular ribs on the lower ring. After the rib pairs over the slots were glued and cut off, the nine ribs between them were continued in well-known manner. Thereafter, the corresponding ribs sitting below them on the underside of the ring were glued, and finally bevelled. And only then did I have glued the remaining six ribs below the rib pairs, which was easier for reasons of space than for the first inlet pipe, where I had first glued all 15 ribs, which made the bevelling quite difficult. And after the bevelling of the last six ribs, this tricky fiddling was finally done and I've felt relieved. Therewith all pipes and outlets of the SSWS are finally finished and can be further processed. Edited November 4, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Very cool updates!!! :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Thanks Joseph for warching again, yep, I can be really satisfied with the progress. Hello together, after all the outlets of the SSWS have been completed with some missing Pipe Supports could actually follow their assembly at the ring lines. I will begin with the transitions from the now finished 36'' inlet pipes (Ø 6.3 mm) to the two 24'' ring lines (Ø 4.0 mm), Source: NASA whose connecting sleeves are finally positioned and glued to the ring lines. Then follows the modeling of the transitions of these six 18'' outlets (Ø 3.2 mm) with the tapers to 12'' (Ø 2.0 mm). And then there are still these two outlets at the end of the ring lines behind the TSMs with the tapers to 16" (Ø 2.5 mm) and then to the 12" nozzle pipes (Ø 2.0 mm). These four rear 18" outlets (above) and the two front 12" outlets (below) have no tapers and are already ready for assembly. When these transitions are modeled, the outlets can finally be glued onto both ringlines. And then these connecting points must also be modeled. So, all in all, this looks like an extensive Apoxie Sculpt session at which we then will see us again. Edited November 4, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Hello everybody, so, now I have begun with modeling the transitions, first with the transitions on the two ring lines, Source: NASA which are still quite accessible and handy. First, two equally sized marbles were formed from the two Apoxie-Sculpt components, which were then kneaded until they were completely mixed, which can be seen in the white color. And then the transitions were modeled on the two sleeves, which can be made at the same time. Thereby it is helpful not to take too much Apoxie Sculpt and then keep it in the mean time occasionally to moisten in order to stay flexible. Then followed the six 18'' outlets from the ring lines into the SRB shafts, and this action was then much more tricky and stressful. Since these parts can hardly be held in the fingers, but they still have to turn and turn around constantly, this was absolutely no nerve balm. Thereby one thing turned out to be particularly hindering, and these were the tiny nipples on the bows and the lower baffles, which I should have installed better afterwards. As a result, the transitions have not worked out as good as one can see. But I wanted to make use of the time before the mass hardens too much, and so I have stayed the course. But now I leave all this dry and then I will rework the transitions separately by sanding. That's it for today. Edited November 4, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Hello everybody, well, seen in hindsight, I have applied a bit too much Apoxie Sculpt (AS) and now have to sand off something, but this is easy to do because the AS is very dense and extremely fine-grained after the hardening. But this effort would have been significantly reduced if I had already formed the transition better in the damp state and adapted it to the rather concave shape. But afterwards one is always wiser. Therefore I have to shape this concave transition with different files, sanding sticks and finally with 2000er sanding sponge, which is already a bit arduous, but what the heck! Here already a first picture of one of the transitions, on the left the somewhat chubby modeled form, and on the right the post-processed form, which looks optically already quite well. In fact, the transition could be even something shorter if I exactly look at the picture once again. At the transition on the second ring line (above) I was then already somewhat more relaxed, since I knew that there was something significantly to sand off, as can be seen here at the right transition. And these are the finished transitions. And now followed the transitions at the six 18''-12'' outlets, which also have a slightly concave shape. Source: NASA Although there is less material to remove, but their handling is more tricky due to the small size. For comparison, I have put a raw state next to it. And tomorrow the remaining five outlets will be reworked. Edited November 4, 2016 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 Hi guys, as I have already indicated, I have now after all brought myself to shorten the transitions at the 36'' outlets of the ring lines, and I imagine that they fit better now into the overall picture. And these are the 18''/12'' outlets with the reworked transitions, And here are finally the finished transitions at the 16''/12'' outlets to the both nozzle tubes. And as next step, the final assembly of all the outlets on the two ring lines begins then with the mounting of the inlet pipes. Source: NASA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 Hello together, before the assembly of the inlet pipes, however still had to be determined their exact length, so that they fit exactly into the corners of the two SRB shafts and end with the coupling sockets at the MLP bottom. For this purpose, the tubes at the upper end must be shortened. At this place, the half-round recesses have to be sanded, whereby the special position of the coupling stubs in the pallets must be observed. And that looks exactly that the (still missing) pipe support sits over one of the three 120° staggered locking points (the rectangular rib pairs) on the inner SRB wall, as can be seen here a bit more distinctly. Source: NASA And as I wanted to be sure during shortening of the inlet pipes were shortened, I used a somewhat longer dummy and sanded the necessary recesses at the end. Then I have sticked this dummy with some pattex under the outlet of the ring line and in this way could mark both the end point of the pipe at the MLP bottom and the corresponding position of the recess at the connection point. And to this length, the supply pipes could now be shortened with a quiet conscience, and then also the recesses could be sanded at the right place. And that looks so, and the same length should have the outlets also, therefore the interim examination at the end stop. And the adjustment at the connection points also looks good. So, this should have been for today, and tomorrow the inlet pipes are then mounted on the ring lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hello everybody, Meanwhile the assembly of the inlet pipes has gone over the stage, whose result I would like to introduce you briefly. The positioning and simultaneous bonding of the pipes under the ring line was somewhat tricky, but finally has worked quite well. Important was the vertical alignment of the pipes in the shaft corner, for which the ring line was weighted, in order to avoid slipping. Now the bondings have only still to dry through, then these transitions can also be modeled with Apoxie Sculpt. And then the supports can also be adapted to the coupling connectors. That's it again for today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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