crowe-t Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Manfred, Excellent job on the feedline and the explanation of the manholes and the ET Aft Support Transportation Fittings! Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Mike. Edited December 23, 2019 by crowe-t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Thanks Mike for your nice words and the good wishes, at the moment I can only make small steps, but that's how I'll achieve my aim too ... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your loves too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 Hello everybody, to Christmas Eve quickly to the Closeouts, which I transferred from the PE board to an Evergreen Styrene Sheet (0,2 mm) because it makes it easier to transfer the contour to the ET. The part should not be glued for the time being, but only after the SOFI Pattern-Tape-Spiral has been glued on, i.e. immediately before the Flour coating. After I had determined the exact position of the Closeouts on the ET, I've fixed it with masking tape (2 mm) and was able to trace the contour. Now I can start soon with gluing on the Tape spiral and then to cut out the contour so that I can subsequently glue on the Closeouts. And with the two Longerons I will do it same way. With that I would like to leave it for now. I wish you all Merry Christmas & Happy New Year! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 Hello everybody, before the champagne corks will pop later, I actually wanted to present you one last update in this decade, regarding some small details at the Thrust struts and the Longerons, which I still would like to modify because the original items look a bit different than in the Airfix Kit. As one can see in this image of the ET-6, the diameter of the Thrust strut in the front part is a little bit larger and the front ring a little wider. Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (Jester) But unfortunately I can't make it anymore, even though the images are ready, which is why I'll postpone it to the next year, but I'll get in touch back tomorrow, I promise. With this in mind, I wish everyone a Happy New Year, see you later!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowe-t Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Happy New Year everyone! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 HAPPY NEW YEAR ... I look forward to seeing your improvements to this kit Manfred! This will be another wonderful year ... but I struggle to believe the last year went by so quickly! Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 Thanks Pete, I also wish you the best for the new year, especially health and luck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the older one gets, the faster time is going (apparently) ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 Hello everybody, and with this again back to the ET, where there are still a few little things like these Thrust Struts and Longerons, which I still would like to modify because in the original they look a little different than in the Airfix Kit. As one can see in this image of the ET-6, the diameter of the oblique struts in the front half is slightly larger and the front ring is a little wider, Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (Jester) which one can see more clearly in this image of the ET-33 (STS-36), from which I determined the dimensions for the sheath. Source: georgesrockets.com (George Gassaway) As can be seen from this, the sheath in 1:144 should only have a wall thickness of 0,2 mm, which makes the selection of a suitable material somewhat difficult, since insulating hose, I like to use for such things, for inner diameters of approx. 3 mm but is too thick-walled and this time is eliminated. So I had to think about something else and first had thought of adhesive film, as it can often be found in the supermarket as a price label. To do this, I cut a 9 mm wide strip and wrapped it around the strut a few times until it had a diameter of approx. 3,6 mm. That would also work if necessary, but then one would have to accept the overlap at the end of the winding, which gradually opened again, which I didn't like. Then I came up with the following idea, and these were the well-known Drinking straws, some of which I had put aside a long time ago. Their diameter is indeed a bit too large at 5 mm, but the wall thickness of approx. 0,2 mm would fit to get the required Ø 3,6 mm. To do this, I've slit a 9 mm long sheath lengthways and then wound it as tightly as possible on a steel rod with a smaller diameter (Ø 2,5 mm) and fixed it with a clothespin, and then placed in a hot water bath for a few minutes for molding. The circumference of the resulting wrapped sheath I've then shortened accordingly, so that there was no overlap on the Airfix strut. By the way, on the left in the image one can already see the prepared spiral for the wider front rings (0,5 mm x 1 mm). And as the test measurement showed, the required diameter of the sleeve was actually 3,6 mm. Here one can see a comparison of both variants, whereby I've chosen for the lower one. Before I could glue the sheaths onto the struts, I first had to remove the rings that were too narrow to be able to thread on the wider rings, that are already glued here. Then the sheaths could be pushed on and glued. And now still for the modification of the Longerons, for what I've used again Apoxie Sculpt, of which both components had to be mixed in a 1:1 ratio by kneading, until a bright color appeared. With that it was then possible to fill in and model the middle areas between the slants, in order to match them to the shape of the real Longerons. In this condition I've let everything dry, and then carefully sanded from all sides. The Thrust Struts are only temporarily layed up and have yet to be glued in. Then the front connecting bolt can also still be scratched. And finally, here is the ET with the temporarily layed up struts and Longerons. With that it's enough for the beginning in the new year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Manfred, you should create a book explaining how you built this masterpiece. It should stay with the model. Very few people looking at your display will understand the incredible effort you put forth to accomplish your build. Your documentation of your build is every bit as fascinationg as the build itself. Happy New year, sir. Edited January 2, 2020 by Slartibartfast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted January 3, 2020 Author Share Posted January 3, 2020 Thanks Bruce for your good wishes, I wish you also a Happy and Healthy New Year. I fully agree with you regarding the tiny details I've scratched and added to the model so far. Exactly the same thing happens to me, when I look at the ET from a normal distance (approx. 50 cm), then I can also hardly see the details of the Umbilicals, Cable Trays and Press. Lines ... That's why I'm documenting the construction so extensively quasi as a tutorial or making-of, maybe in this sense a kind of an e-book ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mknorr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Manfred, you are a madman, in the nicest way. 😉 I haven’t had a look through these pages in a while. Your work is utterly stunning! If the forum had the option, I’d thumbs up every single post of yours. I wish you the very best for 2020! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Thanks my friend for looking in on me once again and the nice compliment. Why can't you leaf through my posts, that should be possible, or what's the problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 Hello everybody, well, the same (art)break as every year, and the longer it lasts, the harder it is to get back in ... But nevertheless it should go on, and that's why: Go right ahead! For the masking of the connection areas of the ET Attachments before the Flour process, one interface is still missing, and that is the one between the ET Vertical Struts and the SRB Aft Attach Struts, Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (Jester) which were unfortunately not taken into account in both the Airfix Kit and the Newware Kit, which results in this gap, which of course should not exist there. Via the local cable connections running in the Cable tray and through the Upper Strut, u.a. the ignition of the SRB Separation Motors took place, which initiated the separation from the ET after the burnout of the Boosters. As one can see from the following image, the round cladding of the Upper Strut cannot be overlooked, Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (woods170) and is not nearly just a puny thing like at the dainty Airfix Strut, which can also be seen in this photo by Steve Patlan, Source: live.staticflickr.com (Steve Patlan) who was close to the action at the time and has great photos in his albums. Source: live.staticflickr.com (Steve Patlan) This comparison inspired me to show these details at the interface in a more real way, whereby I was starting with the cladding of the Upper Strut. But since I had already glued the struts at the right SRB, I've taken the struts of the left SRB and first removed the annoying bobble. Then I've drilled off a Styrene Rod (Ø 3 mm) step by step up to Ø 1,4 mm, so that a separated sleeve of it could be pushed over the strut. In between there was placed a punched disc (0,25 mm, Ø 3,4 mm), which then was glued together with the sleeve on the strut, which already looks more similar to the original strut. The same procedure I will now carry out on the right SRB Strut, for what I will carefully separate it off the booster. And now once again to the connecting cable tray between ET and SRB Attach Ring, for what I once again did use this overseeable photo of the ET-32 ( STS-32) by George Gassaway, what I've turned by 90° for better orientation, from which I've also determined the dimensions (in mm) of the individual details. Therein one can also see well the green drawn TPS Cladding, which lies in front of the Cable Trays like an oblique ramp and should have a similar protective function like those of the elongated LH2/LO2 PAL Ramps in front of the cable trays in the middle and front tank area. Source: georgesrockets.com (George Gassaway) With these dimensions I have drawn this sketch (1:1), which I then have put onto the interface to try on, with which I can mark the masking areas on the ET. The remaining dimensions for scratching the parts I've determined from this side view, Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (woods170) wherewith again a further small step was done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Hello friends, in silent memory of January 28, 1986 I would like to commemorate the tragic 25th Space shuttle mission and the tenth and last flight of the Space shuttle Challenger, which broke 73 seconds after launch ... Source: wikipedia.org It was the first launch of a space shuttle from the new Launch pad Pad 39B, in the construction of which my friend James MacLaren was instrumental, to what all employees had been proudly looking forward to. All the greater were their disappointment and sadness that the first launch from the new pad ended in such a tragic way. It was the worst accident in US space history by that time, in which all seven astronauts were killed, Front row (L-R): Michael Smith, Francis Scobee, Ronald McNair; Back row (L-R): Ellison Onizuka, Christa McAuliffe, Gregory Jarvis, Judith Resnik Source: wikipedia.org but seven new stars were born! Edited January 28, 2020 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowe-t Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I remember this day like it was yesterday! It was such a tragic loss! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 This is Wonderful Manfred! I usually remember dates that had an impact on me but yesterday's anniversary entirely slipped my mind. Until late afternoon when I saw a brief tribute on the local news ... 34 years have passed ... wow! Thanx Manfred! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hello everybody, don't panic friends, after a somewhat longer break it should finally go on. In the meantime, the second SRB Upper Strut (right) has also been modified by the thicker sleeve, but the strut, unfortunately, could not be removed from the bonding without being damaged and therefore has to be lengthened somewhat, so that the distance of the booster from the ET is correct. For the test fitting onto the ET, I was able to use it like this for the time being. Then I've marked the contours for the Longerons and Cable Trays, incl. TPS cladding, and then taped them off with masking tape so that I can expose the adhesive surfaces again after the flouring and priming/painting. Then I took a closer look at and measured the SRB front parts (SRB Forward Skirts) from the Newware Kit, the surface of which is surprisingly finely structured and therefore looks much more real than that smooth from Airfix, whereby they come pretty close to the original. Source: NASA Since the Newware Kit is specially designed for the Revell Shuttle Stack, the question arose whether the SRB Forward Skirts would also match the Airfix-SRBs. But since the diameters of the SRBs of both kits are surprisingly the same (Ø 26 mm), I was relieved and have carefully cut off the front part with the fine saw. And lo and behold, the Newware Forward Skirt makes a good match with the Airfix booster Now I just have to drill the hole for the brass support rod in the right place and take care that the drill does not run away in the Resin part. So I'm still trying to figure out how to do it best ... are there any thoughts? We will see ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowe-t Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi Manfred, You might want to use something with a point(i.e. the pointed side of a compass) to start the hole in the resin Newware Forward Skirt so the drill bit has a place to start. This should keep it from running away. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Nice to see that you're back on this build ... I thought you might have taken a lo-o-ong holiday from this build! And Tom Kladiva does some nice work ... I'll wait and see if you modify it ... somehow! Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 8 hours ago, crowe-t said: Hi Manfred, You might want to use something with a point(i.e. the pointed side of a compass) to start the hole in the resin Newware Forward Skirt so the drill bit has a place to start. This should keep it from running away. Mike. That's right, Mike, but I always pre-prick the starting point of the drill with a needle, when making such fine drilled holes. The problem is the vertical guidance of the drill by hand, without a drill stand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, K2Pete said: Nice to see that you're back on this build ... I thought you might have taken a lo-o-ong holiday from this build! And Tom Kladiva does some nice work ... I'll wait and see if you modify it ... somehow! Pete Thanks Pete, yep, Tom Kladiva's Enhancement Kit is really an amazing product for revamping such Shuttle stacks, which I can only recommend everybody. Edited February 17, 2020 by spaceman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Hello everybody, I actually don't need to drill 25 mm deep holes, because 5 - 10 mm should also be enough if I shorten the brass support rod on both sides accordingly. Therewith the boosters' forward attachment point should be fixed sufficiently and, together with the rear SRB Aft Attach Struts, ensure a stable three-point support of the boosters. This is this circled wedge-shaped Fastening part (SRB/ET Forward Attach Fitting) between the ET and the SRB, in each of which is a Separation Bolt, which is blown up together with similar bolts in the rear SRB struts when the SRBs are separated from the ET and thus releases the booster. Source: NASA Source: Marshall Space Flight Center, Space Transportation System HEAR No. TX-116 As one can see in this image, this fastening wedge is in place on the Airfix booster, but it is missing on the Newware SRB Forward Skirt, what in turn proves that apparently no kit is perfect. Therefore I will scratch this wedge-shaped part and glue it to the attachment point behind the drilled hole for the support rod, with which the attached booster will be glued onto the ET, which should ensure a sufficient hold. And these 5 - 10 mm deep drilled holes should be carried out by hand with the appropriate caution and care, I hope so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Underdog Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Manfred, You've created a work of art, beyond words. It's been a great journey seeing the process in both photos and narrative. Outstanding modeling skills with stellar results and presentation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spaceman Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Thanks Underdog for your nice comment, stay tuned because the journey is not over yet and is to go on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Underdog Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 21 hours ago, spaceman said: stay tuned because the journey is not over yet and is to go on. Glad to know the Journey isn't done yet. Looking forward to seeing the finished model. Just curious, what other space models do you have in your collection? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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