quark51 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Any chance of a injection molded C-5 being released in 1/144 anytime soon, I would like to get one but can not afford $100 or more for one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorsten Wieking Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I am pretty sure that one day the old ARII/Otaki(?) kit will be re-released. Cheers Thorsten Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B-1 Nut Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I wouldn't hold my breath. Supposedly the molds for the C-5 were destroyed or lost. Who knows. People have been begging for years and no one has stepped up to the plate. That being said, I do feel it would be a good seller for Revell of Germany of they would do a new tool along the same quality lines of their C-17. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorsten Wieking Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) I wouldn't hold my breath. Supposedly the molds for the C-5 were destroyed or lost. Who knows. [...] Ah, thanks, haven't heard that rumor so far. Could be the case, OTOH, how many kits of supposedly destroyed moulds have been re-issued in the past? Some AMT/Esci/Ertl moulds come to my mind. Although a new-tool C-5 from Revell would be great, I assume that they will rather bring out a 1/144 A-400 of any other new bird. And with no C-5 being in Ramstein anymore, the domestic market hardly knows that plane. Nonetheless, I keep my fingers crossed. My only C-5 so far is the old Hot Wheels plane for die-cast cars with take off sound.... ;-) Addendum: This thread "C-5 re-release" is interesting in many regards. Besides the obvious topic and a great response from Jennings, this quote is great: [...]The Revell Germany 1/48 H-34 & Wessex molds were damaged beyond repair several years ago, which explains why that kit has not seen the light of day, and won't. J Because Revell re-issuedthe kit just this year: Cheers Thorsten Edited April 30, 2012 by Thorsten Wieking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) The molds have "disappeared" - that doesn't mean they're lost or destroyed. Al Trendle, when he was in charge at Minicraft (and keep in mind that Al was one of the founders of the modern plastic kit industry going back to the late 1940s, and knew **everybody** in the biz) tried to locate them in order to purchase bagged shots to sell in the late 1990s. After a couple of years of getting runarounds from everybody he talked to about it, he gave up. It's entirely likely that the tools are sitting on a shelf in a warehouse somewhere, unknown to their owner. It's happened before. One big block of steel looks a lot like another big block of steel. At least that's what Al told me... Edited April 30, 2012 by Jennings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thorsten Wieking Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 [...] It's entirely likely that the tools are sitting on a shelf in a warehouse somewhere, unknown to their owner. It's happened before. One big block of steel looks a lot like another big block of steel. At least that's what Al told me... That is exactly the movie playing in mind when it comes to "lost" molds/tools. And even if they get inventoried, checked and/or moved from time to time - the people doing this are seldom enthusiasts so they do not realise what they have at their hands. Cheers Thorsten Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I seem to recall reading somewhere that the molds were lost at sea when a container broke loose from a ship in a storm or some such. It really is irrelevant what happened to those old Otaki molds anyhow, it is about time for brand new mold of the C-5. We've got one of the An-124 and the Il-76, now a C-5 and an C-141 would be appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pminer Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I seem to recall reading somewhere that the molds were lost at sea when a container broke loose from a ship in a storm or some such. It really is irrelevant what happened to those old Otaki molds anyhow, it is about time for brand new mold of the C-5. We've got one of the An-124 and the Il-76, now a C-5 and an C-141 would be appreciated. There ya go!! Conclusion? Who cares about the Otaki molds? Revell, Kinetic or whoever can make new molds for crying out loud! With the Engineering software we have today and the computing power, it's FAR easier and less expensive than ever before. And...it will be better than the original molds. Although..I must say the Otaki offering is incredible..except for the engines. I mean come on Model Makers! You're probably looking at some serious profit with a new C-5. Or...at the very least, the Otaki original re-issue. I ain't really getting their business logic in all this. Any ideas? Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Ghost 531 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I seem to recall reading somewhere that the molds were lost at sea when a container broke loose from a ship in a storm or some such. It really is irrelevant what happened to those old Otaki molds anyhow, it is about time for brand new mold of the C-5. We've got one of the An-124 and the Il-76, now a C-5 and an C-141 would be appreciated. Was that the same boat that was carrying the original "Rommel's Rod" and Airfix SA-2 dies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Was that the same boat that was carrying the original "Rommel's Rod" and Airfix SA-2 dies? Eh, probably. Who knows.Airfix has an SA-2? Huh, never knew that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randypandy831 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 C-5 would be nice. there was a 1/72 C-5B at a local show and that was one big bird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Airfix has an SA-2? Huh, never knew that. Here you go: Airfix 1/76 SA-2 'Guideline' HTH, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I seem to recall reading somewhere that the molds were lost at sea when a container broke loose from a ship in a storm or some such. Don't believe everything you hear. The molds have been used extensively in relatively recent memory. I wish I had a nickel for every "the molds were lost at sea" story. The only one of those I *know* to be true (borne out by the fact that it's never been reissued by anyone, ever) is the Otaki 1/144 L-1011 Tristar. When Otaki shut down, several key employees were left being owed a lot of money they never had a prayer of getting. One of their higher ups still had keys to the warehouse, and took the 1011 molds and pushed them off a bridge into Tokyo Bay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 You're probably looking at some serious profit with a new C-5. Doubtful. There are gobs of Otaki kits out there (I've sold two in the past year). Or...at the very least, the Otaki original re-issue. I ain't really getting their business logic in all this. Any ideas? A reissue, yes. Overhead on it is essentially zero. But a new tool? Don't bet on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kg4kpg Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) Don't believe everything you hear. The molds have been used extensively in relatively recent memory. I wish I had a nickel for every "the molds were lost at sea" story. The only one of those I *know* to be true (borne out by the fact that it's never been reissued by anyone, ever) is the Otaki 1/144 L-1011 Tristar. When Otaki shut down, several key employees were left being owed a lot of money they never had a prayer of getting. One of their higher ups still had keys to the warehouse, and took the 1011 molds and pushed them off a bridge into Tokyo Bay. Of course, that's the one I really want. Anyone have some scuba gear I can borrow. ;) Of course, they're going for $200 on evil-bay when available I hear so someone is happy. I'd love yo see a new C-5 as well...and a C-141. Edited May 1, 2012 by kg4kpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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