Finn Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) With the Trumpeter 1/32 A-6A Intruder almost on the horizon, here are a couple of interesting A-6A loads: VA-85 Black Falcons USS Kitty Hawk CVA-63 1968: http://naval.aviation.museum/emuwebdoncoms/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=2886 VA-165 Boomers USS Ranger CVA-61 1967/68: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/A-6A-CVA-61_with_AIM-9D_NAN6-68.jpg Jari edit: a couple of more: http://www.jamercer.com/jsrvn/cruisebk/225-061.jpg http://www.jamercer.com/jsrvn/cruisebk/225-062.jpg Edited June 27, 2012 by Finn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THX1138 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Are those Sidewinders on the VA-165 bird ? Cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 Sure looks like it! I don't recall ever seeing AIM-9s on an Intruder before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
muswp1 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 That VA-165 plane looks like an early enough A-6A that may have been a test to certify the AIM-9's during trials. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gary F Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 We (VA-196) had about half dozen Sidewinder rails in squadron and saw them load the rails from time to time (SEA in '72) but didn't see any AIM-9's ever fly off the boat during that cruise (we had mix of A's, B, D). We also had the rails again on the next cruise but again, never saw them fly off the boat with them. I was told they had been used a few times on the SEA cruise before I joined the squadron ... that it just depended on the Mig threat at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted June 27, 2012 Author Share Posted June 27, 2012 A link on the page with the Intruder with Sidewinders leads to this file: http://www.history.navy.mil/nan/backissues/1960s/1968/Jun68.pdf scroll down to pg 9 to see an A-6 with bombs and AIM-9 so it looks like a legit load. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Sidewinders were included in the Weapons Loading Manual,,,,cleared for all 4 wing stations,,,,that chart is old enough that it included MBRs as options with MERs, so, it must have been along with the first A-6A cruise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 A couple of more, an A-6A with mines: http://collections.naval.aviation.museum/emuwebdoncoms/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=47644 an A-6E that is quite weathered: http://collections.naval.aviation.museum/emuwebdoncoms/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=2614 Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inquisitor Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Polka dots and flowers... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelmkr Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Could be wrong, but that first photo in the OP; are those not AGM-45 Shrikes it's carrying? In that case, would that not make it an A-6B ("Ironhand" missions) and not an A-6A? Marc B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 yes, those are Shrikes,,,,but, there are two reasons that is not an A-6B carrying them one is that the A-6A was cleared for Shrikes very early in the program the other is that there was no A-6B yet at the time of the VA-85 first Kittyhawk cruise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 On 27/6/2012 at 7:43 AM, Finn said: With the Trumpeter 1/32 A-6A Intruder almost on the horizon, here are a couple of interesting A-6A loads: http://www.jamercer.com/jsrvn/cruisebk/225-062.jpg what is this long "antenna" on the outboard pylon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mizar Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 ALQ 100 antennas Luigi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yup AN ALQ-100 antenna: Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 6/27/2012 at 12:43 AM, Finn said: VA-85 Black Falcons USS Kitty Hawk CVA-63 1968: http://naval.aviation.museum/emuwebdoncoms/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=2886 Pretty sure this one was an A-6B from the VA-75 Sunday Punchers, as they were the A-6 squadron on the Kitty Hawk in 1968. Interesting load with Shrikes and Snakeyes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ziggyfoos Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 55 minutes ago, mrvark said: Pretty sure this one was an A-6B from the VA-75 Sunday Punchers, as they were the A-6 squadron on the Kitty Hawk in 1968. Interesting load with Shrikes and Snakeyes! It is pic of VA-85 but from 1967 not 1968. (Also VA-75s 1968 NH tail codes were inline and they had black modex with white drop shadow, the white modex and shifted tail codes in pic also confirm it's VA-85) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) thanks. which versions carried the ALQ-100 antenna? Bravo only or Alpha, too? Why Trumpeter does not include these antennas on their kits? Edited January 6, 2018 by Alpagueur Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ziggyfoos Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Alpagueur said: thanks. which versions carried the ALQ-100 antenna? Bravo only or Alpha, too? Why Trumpeter does not include these antennas on their kits? They all got them (and EA-6A too). The -100 was introduced around 1968 and retrofitted to earlier airframes. Trumpeter 1/32 and Hobby Boss 1/48 A-6A kits do include them, they're part of the pylons - but their version of the antenna is not shaped well (way too thin). The Es didn't have them. Edited January 6, 2018 by ziggyfoos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 17 hours ago, ziggyfoos said: It is pic of VA-85 but from 1967 not 1968. (Also VA-75s 1968 NH tail codes were inline and they had black modex with white drop shadow, the white modex and shifted tail codes in pic also confirm it's VA-85) I checked a couple of sources and don't see that VA-85 was using A-6Bs at that point. However, from Thornborough & Mormillo's Iron Hand, it appears that A-6As were carrying AGM-45s then; interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, mrvark said: I checked a couple of sources and don't see that VA-85 was using A-6Bs at that point. However, from Thornborough & Mormillo's Iron Hand, it appears that A-6As were carrying AGM-45s then; interesting. OT - but if anyone is interested in the subject of SEAD (from a US perspective), I highly recommend the above book. Unbelievable details on the subject (it mentioned that Shrikes were originally developed to arm nuclear weapon equipped A-4's so they could take out Russian and Chinese radars in support of their SIOP missions). Good mix of technical details and "there I was..." anecdotes. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1852606053/ref=x_gr_w_bb_sout?ie=UTF8&tag=x_gr_w_bb_sout-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1852606053&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2 Edited January 7, 2018 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 On 7/1/2018 at 6:02 PM, 11bee said: OT - but if anyone is interested in the subject of SEAD (from a US perspective), I highly recommend the above book. Unbelievable details on the subject (it mentioned that Shrikes were originally developed to arm nuclear weapon equipped A-4's so they could take out Russian and Chinese radars in support of their SIOP missions). Good mix of technical details and "there I was..." anecdotes. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1852606053/ref=x_gr_w_bb_sout?ie=UTF8&tag=x_gr_w_bb_sout-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1852606053&SubscriptionId=1MGPYB6YW3HWK55XCGG2 I already got the Tony's book and I really love the A-6B (pat/arm) with AGM-78s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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