Laurent Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Hi. Here's the link to the Master194 thread. Forget the French text, just look at the photos. Aftermarket used at this point: Part PE set. Edited July 13, 2012 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blunce Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I got to page 6 before I realized that was 1/72! Holy cow! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arne Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Thanks for this Link. ..oh my God - this is no good for mee and mei to left Hands with 10 Daumen... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Looks ok, i guess. :) Will he make copies of the cockpit for sale? PS: Arne, when will you post your 3 newest builds? Tu-22M3, Yak-3 and PAK-FA i mean. Have been wanting to see those for a while... Edited July 13, 2012 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkey Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Awesome painting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Kevan Vogler Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I almost went nuts trying to put a lot of those same details into a 1/32 MiG-21. That he's doing it so well at 1/72 impresses me very deeply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Excellent work with very nice details in it!!! Nice and clear work on that resin casting the good old way. Look forward to the continuation of this work. Thanks Laurent for posting it. Best regards Gabor P.s. A bit of an off topic: It is “good†to see my version of the KM-1M seat resurface again in resin form, I think it is on page 1 in this French thread, the one on the right. It seems that the Czech RV is using a pirated copy of my design in their MiG-23 sets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PetrB Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) Hi Gabor, as far as I know, originally RV bought KM-1M from Pavla for their Mig-23 cockpit set...and honestly...it is piece of ****. I wish you to have better KM-1M than Pavla's :-) Very good KM-1 is produced by RES-IM...see http://res-im.webnode.cz/products/a7206/ ... recently, in Modelar magazine (Czech), there were some photos of RES-IM masters for Mig-23 sets (as part of RV flogger build article) Edited July 14, 2012 by PetrB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Hi Gabor, as far as I know, originally RV bought KM-1M from Pavla for their Mig-23 cockpit set...and honestly...it is piece of ****. I wish you to have better KM-1M than Pavla's :-) Very good KM-1 is produced by RES-IM...see http://res-im.webnode.cz/products/a7206/ ... recently, in Modelar magazine (Czech), there were some photos of RES-IM masters for Mig-23 sets (as part of RV flogger build article) Hi PetrB, The KM-1M seat I designed for PP Models in UK back in 1987 was intended for resin but was produced in white metal in the end. It had a set of photoetched details for it. A master for the 48th scale version was also made but never released (there were no kits to use it in). For reference on my masters an original KM-1M from a MiG-21 MF was used and later an original seat was added to my collection. It is used now as the source of information, data, measurements and shapes for a new set of seats in three scales. The original PP ejection seat has been copied by several companies including Pavla with the addition of some curious looking parts. At the Moson show I have seen the RV set for the MiG-23 and it had the PP seat in it with some additions to replace the original photoetched parts that I designed for the original. Yes I have seen the RES-IM seat and I have to say that it has little resemblance to the original ejection seat. Unfortunately none of the producers (including the Eduard Brassin seat) have been able to capture the fairly simple lines of the headbox not to speak of the other details. For our seat we had to simplify the back of the headbox for whitemetal casting technology as well as lots of other corrections which would have been no problem for resin casting. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Will he make copies of the cockpit for sale? He can make a few copies only. PM if interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mirage@enthusiast Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hi all! Nice post Laurent! I hardly can believe this build is in 1/72. I have never seen so detailed Mig-21 in this scale.... I am waiting for the final result. Cheers Polo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChippyWho Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 That is totally awesome! Many thanks for the link. There is some excellent material on that site; I found this a while ago for the old Academy Banjo: F2H-3/4 OK, not quite in the same class as the MiG, but inspiring in the same way! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Modelmkr Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It took me a while to get past the bottom of page 2... ;) Marc B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thegoodsgt Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I love build threads like that. With all due respect to the modeler, who's clearly a talented man, seeing these step-by-step photos helps the rest of us mortals understand how a complex superdetailed project can be broken down into manageable pieces. Well done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruud Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Dang. That is some great building! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 It getting there: http://master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=67836&start=175 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sakai Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 It getting there: http://master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=67836&start=175 He totally "killed" the finish with those frigging washes and whatever else, especially undersides. Now it looks like carton model. What a pity. Damn that stupid "Spanish school". Mario Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 especially undersides. I agree but... Damn that stupid "Spanish school". ... if François wants to conform to the "Spanish school", he has the right to do so. It's a hobby, the modeller does what pleases him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Removed -- ARC won't let me post TinyURL to translated page. I guess this is a "feature" of ARC? Gene K Edited October 3, 2012 by Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thegoodsgt Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I wouldn't have painted and weathered it exactly the way he did, but I think François's MiG-21 looks better than most of the models I see online. Steven Brown Scale Model Soup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sakai Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 ... if François wants to conform to the "Spanish school", he has the right to do so. It's a hobby, the modeller does what pleases him. Absolutely, no doubt about it. However, this painting "trend/fad" (aka Spanish school) is ridiculously defeating the idea of scale modeling i.e. close representation of reality. Just recently there was another example here, beautifully built Sukhoi (Su-24?), ultimately "beaten to death" by weathering. There is another highly skilled French modeler who posts here, on Hyperscale and Czech modeling forum by "Anis" or "malina" who does the same thing, spotless build, great painting and then just kills it all by totally overdone weathering. All his planes ultimately look as if they were pulled out of the lake after 50+ years. It's just sad that accuracy is being sacrificed in favor of "eye candies" that look nothing like planes looked upon from distance. Once people realize that techniques that work well with armor and figures cannot be indiscriminately applied to aircraft we shall be "back on track". Nobody cares perhaps, I do but am not going to loose my sleep over it. Happy modeling. Mario in NYC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boom175 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm sorry Sakai, no offense but you never worked around real military A/C have you? I work on fighters for 31 years and I often said that If I did a model as dirty as the real ones get people would kick me out of the modelling room!! And to quite honest no offense to my Russian maintenance brethren, Russian jets weather hard! Like I said, no offense its just what I've seen. Everyone should model to there own taste! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sakai Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I'm sorry Sakai, no offense but you never worked around real military A/C have you? I work on fighters for 31 years and I often said that If I did a model as dirty as the real ones get people would kick me out of the modelling room!! And to quite honest no offense to my Russian maintenance brethren, Russian jets weather hard! Like I said, no offense its just what I've seen. Everyone should model to there own taste! Actually I was around military planes and helicopters, including Soviet ones, around GA planes, airliners and gliders. I never said aircraft don't get dirty. I'm saying that current weathering fad disregards the scale therefore produces overdone, unrealistic effects. Mario in NYC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toniosky Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Maybe you guys should wait for the model to be completely finished before criticizing ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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