J.C. Bahr Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The 15 and 17 year old girl drivers probably freaked and panicked.... http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/28/13516181-man-killed-during-alleged-bigfoot-stunt All other Darwin award candidates just need to pack it up and go home, this guy has it locked up for sure! Don't drink and wear Ghillie suits peeps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wh1skea Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 What a dumb - Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkey Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Strange and tragic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indydog Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 alcohol may have been a factor. Ya think??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogsbody Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 From the shallow end of the gene pool. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 does a 15 years old girl really can drive in Montana??? if it so... i'll never go there!!! and for the story, i always thought it was inappropriate to wear full-military gears outside military environment... mostly (or even more) when your not a "in duty" military man... maybe it's because i'm a former Canadian army man... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmk0210 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Natural selection at work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Probably the worst part about this story is the fact two teenage drivers killed a person (granted it was CLEARLY his fault) and will have to live with that the rest of their lives, which is unfortunate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hegedus Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 (granted it was CLEARLY his fault) Anyone with an ounce of common sense would think so, but I'm sure lawyers will be involved. When talking about the legal system, common sense need not apply... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 A lot of states allow learners permits at 15 y/o, which is most likely what she had.. I seriously doubt she had a full drivers license. does a 15 years old girl really can drive in Montana??? if it so... i'll never go there!!! and for the story, i always thought it was inappropriate to wear full-military gears outside military environment... mostly (or even more) when your not a "in duty" military man... maybe it's because i'm a former Canadian army man... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Anyone with an ounce of common sense would think so, but I'm sure lawyers will be involved. When talking about the legal system, common sense need not apply... because common sense, is not that common... A lot of states allow learners permits at 15 y/o, which is most likely what she had.. I seriously doubt she had a full drivers license. ok, that's 1 year younger than where i lived... (which is already questionable...) so next time i'll go to states, i'll inquire which states i shall avoid... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horrido Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 does a 15 years old girl really can drive in Montana??? if it so... i'll never go there!!! States with high amounts of agriculture (especially grain/peas/potatoes) will often have agricultural driving permits available to juveniles. If I remember correctly, a family friends' daughter was driving wheat trucks at age 14, maybe even younger. In all honesty, the farm kids on the job seem to drive with a lot more care and alertness than most adults on the open road, since they want to prove they're up for the job and want the respect from their parents and other adults. It's when they decide to be reckless, or if the situation calls for experience, that they tend to get into trouble. Rules vary considerably from state to state, and my impression is that Montana is fairly liberal in its allowances. Here's an example for Washington State: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.20.070 and for the story, i always thought it was inappropriate to wear full-military gears outside military environment... mostly (or even more) when your not a "in duty" military man... maybe it's because i'm a former Canadian army man... Since when is a Ghillie "full-military gear" or restricted only to the military in the US? Anyone desiring and able can make one or order one, and pretty much wear it anywhere he/she chooses (unless local restrictions dictate otherwise, and I am aware of none, or you are hunting, and then it likely needs to have the legally required amount of hunter-orange in it, depending on state rules and regulations). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
famvburg Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Well, in Mississippi, unless things have changed, a learner's permit can be had at 14 and a 'hardship DL' meaning the teenager has a job or other valid reason to drive from here to there at age 15. Normally the teen must be 16. IIRC, at 15 there are certain special provisions, such as curfews and the like. However, in the mid '70s in Ms., I got my permit at 14 when I took Driver's Ed. during the summer of '75. In late Jan. of '76, not long after I turned 15, I got my license, a full license at that. IMO, age has nothing to do with a safe driver. Additionally, you probably won't believe the number of people who drive with no license at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 States with high amounts of agriculture (especially grain/peas/potatoes) will often have agricultural driving permits available to juveniles. If I remember correctly, a family friends' daughter was driving wheat trucks at age 14, maybe even younger. In all honesty, the farm kids on the job seem to drive with a lot more care and alertness than most adults on the open road, since they want to prove they're up for the job and want the respect from their parents and other adults. It's when they decide to be reckless, or if the situation calls for experience, that they tend to get into trouble. Rules vary considerably from state to state, and my impression is that Montana is fairly liberal in its allowances. Here's an example for Washington State: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.20.070 Since when is a Ghillie "full-military gear" or restricted only to the military in the US? Anyone desiring and able can make one or order one, and pretty much wear it anywhere he/she chooses (unless local restrictions dictate otherwise, and I am aware of none, or you are hunting, and then it likely needs to have the legally required amount of hunter-orange in it, depending on state rules and regulations). you named it!!!... in the USA... i'm Canadian...(and former military) and lived in eastern Canada...(and very happy and proud not to live of the other side of the border) ...and always have a very low esteem on those who wears military clothing(or look-alike)when not military, or not in military duty...(experience proves me right most of the time on that issue... sorry to all those supra-paramilitary-deer-hunter...) and that special man we're talking about seems to be a good example of why i don't have much esteem of them... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 you named it!!!... in the USA... i'm Canadian...(and former military) and lived in eastern Canada...(and very happy and proud not to live of the other side of the border) ...and always have a very low esteem on those who wears military clothing(or look-alike)when not military, or not in military duty...(experience proves me right most of the time on that issue... sorry to all those supra-paramilitary-deer-hunter...) and that special man we're talking about seems to be a good example of why i don't have much esteem of them... Geez. You know, rather than worrying about which states you should avoid with 15 year old drivers you should probably just stay in Canada and avoid coming to the USA and visiting all of us crazy, gun toting, ghillie suit wearing, under age driving rednecks....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Anyone with an ounce of common sense would think so, but I'm sure lawyers will be involved. When talking about the legal system, common sense need not apply... Hey, when they're not chasing ambulances they need to make money somehow, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreyGhost Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 The Ghillie Suit was developed for hunting and later adopted by the Military ... -Gregg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JasonW Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 The Ghillie Suit was developed for hunting and later adopted by the Military ... -Gregg Right, originally developed by Scottish hunters in the Highlands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Baker Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 When a driver is driving w/ a learners permit, they are required to be driving w/ a passenger that's at least 18 y/o, and it may also be required that the passenger is a family member. There are also restrictions on the times that the driver is allowed to drive. They arent allowed to drive at night, and they arent allowed to have passengers under the age of 18. So its a non issue as far I'm concerned. People have to learn to drive at some point. ok, that's 1 year younger than where i lived... (which is already questionable...) so next time i'll go to states, i'll inquire which states i shall avoid... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Camus272 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) A lot of states allow learners permits at 15 y/o, which is most likely what she had.. I seriously doubt she had a full drivers license. I had my driver's license at 15 in Minnesota, gotta love farm country. edit: However, it did not allow driving after dark, so there may be a violation there. Brian Edited September 1, 2012 by Camus272 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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