snickers Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Hi folks, I have started building my pave low. The base kit is revell 1/144 HH-53C. Nose sensors are ready but it will be the last part to be installed, minor fix is needed to represent MH-53J. The radar dome is a bit larger so I need and try to either sand off and put fillings on the side. I need help for the markings. I will grab star-and-bar from Dragon's MH-60G and some stencils. I searched the net, found some that don't have walkways, some have. So if someone can send me or attach a photo where I can clearly see the walkways. I might just paint or cut excess black decals from other kits. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HOLMES Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Bumpety bump? Good luck with the build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
herbarnold99 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=231131&st=0&p=2203657&hl=144&fromsearch=1entry2203657 Is this any help? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xmh53wrench Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Well here you go from my memory. IF they had black walkways this is how they looked. While I was wrenching on them, usually in phase dock the black non skid paint was touched up to match the camo, so the non skid surface was still there, but no longer black. The stripe went under the input drive shaft cowlings as well. There may have been a rectangle behind the main rotor head on the dog house as well similar to whats forward of the main rotor head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 To add to wrench's comments. Some of the Paves had non-skid on the forward portion of the fuel tanks also. A couple of strips was all. Once they went grey, the non-skid stayed black. IIRC, the desert birds had the non-skid sprayed over like the Euro schemed helicopters did. Check out this pic I found on the net. It shows it pretty clearly http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/MH-53J_Pave_Low_III.jpg/490px-MH-53J_Pave_Low_III.jpg -Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xmh53wrench Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 WOW, thats pretty interesting, it was a no-no to step on the aux tanks when I was in (a million years ago). But then that was the aluminum tanks, must have become ok with the kevlar tanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snickers Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) Thanks guys. Lots of help I got here. As I noticed, the revell's HH-53C kit's FT pylons are longer (pylons that are molded to the FTs), I will just ignore it. I tried to cut, reshape the rotor blades and I think I can live with it. I attached pictures, blurry though (not investing on cameras), of the nose sensor: Sensors on each pylons, chaff/flare dispensers will be from excess sprues. The nose sensor was acquired from my personal friend,tikbhoy who build this kit: http://www.scale-rotors.com/galerie/1-utility-helicopters/2522-hh-60h-rescue-hawk-dragon.html Edited September 24, 2012 by snickers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Speedster Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Nice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snickers Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Reading online about this specific helo. Is the kit fuel tanks small or different to build a -J variant? Are these tanks intended only for HH-53C? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xmh53wrench Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Sorry for the crappy picture....(its supposed to be right side up....hope it updates on photo bucket). left to right... 450 gallon aluminum tank for early ch/hh-53b/c 650 gallon aluminum tank for late hh-53b/c, hh-53h/j 650 gallon kevlar tank for mh-53j/m (after 1986-7) The two aluminum tanks were actually aux tanks from other aircraft just adapted to the -53, I am still trying to figure out which ones....F-105 comes to mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattP Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Hey There Snickers!!! As for the Outrigger fuel tanks I was going to modify 2 centerline tanks from 2 ARII F-105D's. They're a bit bigger, and have a better shape. Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xmh53wrench Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) Upon further investigation...the F-105 has it. The 450 gallong wing tanks were adapted, with the top fin removed, then later the 650 gallon centerline tank was adapted with smaller and straight fins. LOL, good call Matt...ya beat me to it on the match for the mid-timeframe tanks. Edited October 7, 2012 by xmh53wrench Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snickers Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 To xmh53wrench, you've been helpful with the drawings. A lot of help I got. But I realized there are lots to modify on the base kit. From main rotors, tanks, ECM sensors, nose, to build a -J. How about ending up building a Marine CH-53D instead?? To mattp, I will try modify tanks from 1/48th sprues. And if not get satisfied, then I'll leave those tanks intact and finish it a -J. Anyway, I build models just for personal collections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xmh53wrench Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I am not sure exactly which tanks come with the 1/144 kit, but if they are the second (middle) style, then you can build a HH-53H Pave Low II (circ 1980-1986). They had the 650 gal aluminum tanks, standard H-53 aluminum blades (not composite E model blades), standard non-folding rotor head, and European 1 camouflage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snickers Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 M53wrench, yes the kit comes with the one on the middle. But i will still try to build from sprues. When they start to paint overall grey? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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