TheFlyingDutchman Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Can you give us a list of the distributors? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian 1 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Can you give us a list of the distributors? I agree, who are our options for purchasing this kit from? Squadron, Sprue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 http://www.coopersmodels.com/bpk-catalog.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian 1 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 http://www.coopersmodels.com/bpk-catalog.html I sent you an email on a plane ID did you get it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Apparently not... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian 1 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Apparently not... Ok, I tried again to your pemtel addy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Just curious, did they have to pay any license fees and royalties to use the name Boeing? As far as I know Boeing is very aggressive about policing the use of its name by model companies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 25, 2012 Author Share Posted November 25, 2012 Ever hear the term "let sleeping dogs lie"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Here's LV-JTD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lars Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Every model kit producer should be made aware of the biggest potential problem with soft tires, not yet mentioned here. I have seen real rubber ones that don't look bad, included with car kits, BUT...some of the plastic materials used in others, specifically in kits like the AMT 1:48 Grumman Tigercat, for example, will eat through any styrene parts they come in contact with over time. This means that they will eventually dissolve the wheels they are mounted on if they are the wrong stuff! I generally want nothing to do with soft tires if I can avoid them, for this very reason. Those of you who may have AMT kits with those tires (or other manufacturers' kits with similar items included) in your stash may want to check the current condition of them, assembled or not, & get those soft plastic jobs out of the box. Removing the tires from this 737 kit & leaving them in contact with some styrene scrap for a month or 2 should tell the tale in this case. Over the span of a couple of years, those Tigercat tires left DEEP tread patterns embossed in styrene...fortunately on the bottom of a clear styrene parts drawer... -Lars Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pinky coffeeboat Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Every model kit producer should be made aware of the biggest potential problem with soft tires, not yet mentioned here. I have seen real rubber ones that don't look bad, included with car kits, BUT...some of the plastic materials used in others, specifically in kits like the AMT 1:48 Grumman Tigercat, for example, will eat through any styrene parts they come in contact with over time. This means that they will eventually dissolve the wheels they are mounted on if they are the wrong stuff! I generally want nothing to do with soft tires if I can avoid them, for this very reason. Those of you who may have AMT kits with those tires (or other manufacturers' kits with similar items included) in your stash may want to check the current condition of them, assembled or not, & get those soft plastic jobs out of the box. Removing the tires from this 737 kit & leaving them in contact with some styrene scrap for a month or 2 should tell the tale in this case. Over the span of a couple of years, those Tigercat tires left DEEP tread patterns embossed in styrene...fortunately on the bottom of a clear styrene parts drawer... -Lars I thought I read somewhere that if the plastic wheels are coated in Klear/Future (or some other varnish, not sure) then the reaction between the plastic and rubber/vinyl didn't take place (or did so at a much slower rate). Like I said, I'm not totally sure if this is correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SkyKing918 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) I thought I read somewhere that if the plastic wheels are coated in Klear/Future (or some other varnish, not sure) then the reaction between the plastic and rubber/vinyl didn't take place (or did so at a much slower rate). Like I said, I'm not totally sure if this is correct. Back in the Middle Ages of plastic modeling, Airfix Magazine recommended painting plastic tank wheels with a dilute solution of PVC glue (i.e., "white" glue such as Elmer's brand) to prevent vinyl tank treads from dissolving them. PVC was also recommended for priming their soft plastic figures to make them easier to paint with hobby enamels. If the tires in the new 737 kit are like those of modern car kits, they should not be a problem. But if they have a high vinyl content, they will melt the wheels they are installed on. I'd remove them from the kit in any case, and wait for some enterprising after-market resin caster to come up with suitable substitutes. Edited November 27, 2012 by SkyKing918 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PMG Offramp Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Another one I read : coat the wheel rim surfaces to be in contact with the rubber tire with bare metal foil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig23 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Is the BPK kit suitable for building any one of these versions ? 737-214 737-222 737-247 737-275 Advanced Cheers, Haydn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
angry_android Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Is the BPK kit suitable for building any one of these versions ? 737-214 737-222 737-247 737-275 Advanced Cheers, Haydn. It would depend on the individual airframe. The last two numbers are just customer codes. Nothing else. A -2H4, for example, is one made for Southwest. -232 would denote United. The individual aircraft could have all the spotting features of an Advanced but not be one as the external features were implemented on the -200 production line, so many late -200s have the external spotting features of the -200 Advanced, and many earlier models were retrofitted. So you would need to know the configuration of any individual airplane that was not already an advanced model. Consult photos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Actually a -232 would be Delta. A -222 would be United. :) Here are front and side views showing the pylon difference. The wider/deeper pylons were a drag reduction measure that came in on the assembly line somewhere around line number 550 (if anyone knows for sure, I'd really appreciate knowing). Note the width of the pylon in the photos and the depth (how far down the side of the nacelle it goes) in the side views. All of the narrow pylon airplanes, and at least a good few of the wide pylons when first introduced retained the spring loaded blow-in doors around the outside of the nacelle. Those were often deleted later when noise reduction kits were developed. J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony in NZ Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ok, thanks BPK! I just brought one!! Now Jennings....how about those NAC decals??? Cheers guys Anthony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 NAC's were all the early pylon style... If we could get Victorlas to do a new set of nacelles and pylons though!?!?! :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony in NZ Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Thanks Jen I think it was only the very first one...ZK-NAC, I have a feeling the rest were later ones. But I will have to check my books. I have a big book on NAC Aircraft and it has a huge section on the 737's. I had better check. Cheers Anthony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 No, all of their machines were delivered fairly early on, including the one(s?) they bought from PSA. All had the narrow/shallow pylons. When it became Air NZ new a/c were ordered and were Advanced airplanes. But they didn't fly in NAC colors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony in NZ Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ah, ok thanks mate. I knew you would know! Cheers Anthony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moggy Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) On 11/26/2012 at 4:19 AM, Jennings said: Here's LV-JTD! Hi Jennings! What about a decal sheet for LV-JDT?? Cheers Edited July 17, 2018 by Moggy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Entirely likely. Stay tuned. I need to get the kit in my hands before I can proceed any further. There will be an announcement about 1/72 737-200 decals from F-Dcal soon though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mig23 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Thanks for your replies angry android and Jennings - I've bought one now ! :lol: Haydn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
angry_android Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Actually a -232 would be Delta. A -222 would be United. :)/> You're right, and Delta's code is exactly how I used to remember the formula for acetic acid (This rhyme incidentally helped several friends: "Margaret C-H-O flew on Delta's 737-232" - C2H3O2). Since I have spent a great deal of time doing things besides making airplane models since I was a teenager, I have long forgotten a lot of those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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