Raymond Chung Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) The new one-piece metal wing A-6A/E The slat The flaps I am not sure if the A-6A can carry this payload... Edited November 6, 2012 by Raymond Chung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That's looking real nice! Will the wings also be foldable? Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Chung Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 That's looking real nice! Will the wings also be foldable? Mark Yes, a recess panel line on the back of the wing. Use a cutter to cut it out and the fold wing option will be made. Besides, the speed brake can also open. But unless you want to have return to carrier post, I cannot see any photo with brake open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Looks great, Raymond. Has there been any progress with the Alpha Jet as well? Edited November 6, 2012 by KursadA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xavi84 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I cant wait to get my hands on one of those! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Wow! Nice thin, sharp trailing edges on the flaps. I'll have one please! M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Looks good, hope it comes out soon. Just a couple of points, the Rockeyes have the nose caps moulded on, normally removed when loaded on the a/c and the sway braces on the MERS should be flush with the racks on the MER. Also the slime light on the fuselage wasn't on the A model, early ones at least. Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okthree Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I have one word. Sweet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waylandcool Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The load would be fine for the A-6A except for the HARM's on the outboard wing stations. The A-6 started carrying them in the 80's. Otherwise, it looks really good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan buysse Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Nice! I had been looking forward to this one, Mr Chung. I'm glad that there will be a folded wing option. Apart from the HARM's, there is another minor nit-pick about the load. A MER with 6 Mk-82's on the inner wing stations gave trouble because one bomb was too close to the forward door of the main landing gear. Possible solutions: leave one bomb off. Or remove the door which is what the Marines did for shore-based operations in Vietnam (I've been told). Or just have a full MER on the outer stations and fuel tanks on the inner stations. Best regards, Stefan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard J Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The radome line around the nose makes it look more like the the front of an EA-6A to me. The rear edge of the radome should be much further back, just ahead of the intake splitter plate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A6BSTARM Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Don't forget the ALQ-100 Antenna on Station 4 (right hand inboard pylon) that was common on the A-6A and early A-6E's until the ALQ-126 upgrade in the mid-80s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The radome line around the nose makes it look more like the the front of an EA-6A to me. The rear edge of the radome should be much further back, just ahead of the intake splitter plate. I think you're right . It's not difficult at all to fix (putty the existing panel line and scribe a new one) but this shows how it can be useful to a manufacturer to let a third party person have a look at the CAD model to help debugging it before the tooling is made. Kinetic does this but perhaps it wasn't done yet when the Intruder was designed ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadwbg Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 OK- I a missing something here- is this a new kit? From who? I like the wing by the way! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwest21 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 OK- I a missing something here- is this a new kit? From who? I like the wing by the way! new 48th kit from kinetic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A6BSTARM Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 If your going to do a weapons load out. Add some SHRIKEs and STANDARD ARM along with what is shown as potential sprues. That way if someone wanted to they could do an A-6B jet prior to the PAT/STARM mod of the airframe and the "button" nose B's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waylandcool Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Nice! I had been looking forward to this one, Mr Chung. I'm glad that there will be a folded wing option. Apart from the HARM's, there is another minor nit-pick about the load. A MER with 6 Mk-82's on the inner wing stations gave trouble because one bomb was too close to the forward door of the main landing gear. Possible solutions: leave one bomb off. Or remove the door which is what the Marines did for shore-based operations in Vietnam (I've been told). Or just have a full MER on the outer stations and fuel tanks on the inner stations. Best regards, Stefan. I didn't see that earlier but I see it now. All of the pictures I've seen of A-6's carrying MER's on the inboard stations only had 4 bombs loaded. Both inboard stations were empty IIRC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VFA-103guy Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Nice work Raymond! I agree with Richard J. The nose looks more like the EA-6A's than an A-6A or A-6E. Still, glad to see the dropped flaps and slats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard J Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) I'll make two other comments about the model as shown... The RHAW fairing on the tail fin is too tall. The fairing should be about half the height of the fin tip above the fairing, but what I see in the photos of the model is that the fairing is the same height as the fin tip above the fairing. Here's a photo (linked) that illustrates what I'm rambling on about... http://www.bathead.com/Noseart/AC-VMFA242-A6.jpg Given the number of Intruder squadrons that have coloured bands painted around the fin tip, the size of the RAW fairing on this model could present problems for the decal manufacturers. The second thing is that the fixed forward part of the canopy is too low, and too close to the top of the intake. Normally the MODEX number is applied between the canopy and the intake, but it looks to me like there's not really enough vertical space there. Here's a link to a photo showing the problem area... http://www.aviationspectator.com/files/images/Grumman-A-6-Intruder-018.preview.jpg I'm not trying to be negative, I would just like this stuff to be as accurate as possible, and the above issues are less of a problem on the currently available A-6 kits. -Richard J Edited November 8, 2012 by Richard J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Chung Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 I'll make two other comments about the model as shown... The RHAW fairing on the tail fin is too tall. The fairing should be about half the height of the fin tip above the fairing, but what I see in the photos of the model is that the fairing is the same height as the fin tip above the fairing. Here's a photo (linked) that illustrates what I'm rambling on about... http://www.bathead.com/Noseart/AC-VMFA242-A6.jpg Given the number of Intruder squadrons that have coloured bands painted around the fin tip, the size of the RAW fairing on this model could present problems for the decal manufacturers. The second thing is that the fixed forward part of the canopy is too low, and too close to the top of the intake. Normally the MODEX number is applied between the canopy and the intake, but it looks to me like there's not really enough vertical space there. Here's a link to a photo showing the problem area... http://www.aviationspectator.com/files/images/Grumman-A-6-Intruder-018.preview.jpg I'm not trying to be negative, I would just like this stuff to be as accurate as possible, and the above issues are less of a problem on the currently available A-6 kits. -Richard J Dear Richard, The vertical tail RHAW is about 2/3 height of the fin tip, but the aspect angle of the photo "make it larger" Also, I compare the on-site photo, it seems the RHAW on your photo is somehow little "smaller", I am not sure if this is also the aspect ratio of the photo or if there are different RHAW employed. AS for the canopy part, since the multiple-parts canopy is difficult to handle, therefore, we designed the attachment point with some "surface" from the fueslage. That way, some larger attachment area for the canopy to fueslage during putting cement. you need to mask the area during painting. Thus, give you a feeling that the canopy is lower. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChesshireCat Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I certainly hope you plan on doing this in 1/72 scales as well! Plus an A6b in the future would also be nice to fill in a gap or two. gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gb_madcat_sl Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Pte-order link up. http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=KI-K48034 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alessio Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Thanks for the great models... I have already one in preorder...hope that the folding wing options, works fine like in the previous a-6e kit... I'' m looking forward also to see the wild weasel intruder ea-6a version!!!! Regards Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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