Phoinix Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) My goal is to use everything I learned from this project: http://s97.beta.photobucket.com/user/BlenderPilot/library/Delavnica/HMA1%20Merlin and put it into large scale. I'll start on Austrian army's Black hawk with external fuel tanks on ESSS. It will be stationary on the ground, sliding doors open, cockpit doors closed. After getting a lot of photos from the internet i got enough and started shaping this beast into correct shape. The openings at the middle section are totaly different that on actual airframe so some cuts needed to be made. Also, clearing all the holes for mesh and thinning the surrounding area. The rivets are mostly off and so are some panel lines. I won't go into perfection with those, but enough to get a feel for the structure. I decided to do the rivets with the riveter- 1,25 spacing. Archer rivets didn't impress me as you can mostly see the base film and the rivets would need to be of the smallest size just to get the bigger ones covered (6mm on real vs. 0,2 mm on model). I made some service covers from lead foil- It doesn't look convincing now, but when painted it should do the trick. Edited April 2, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shawn M Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 nice touch on the panels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) I found an available hour in my schedule and continued with riveting. Its frustrating to look for different blackhawk versions, different rivet layout just to get seconds of riveting done. Edited December 19, 2012 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 That's a neat idea with the metal foil access panels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 I hope it still looks convincing when painted over. Its lead foil used by dentists back in the old days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sebastijan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) lol, just noticed your location :D according to the SDS we are now Zombieland as well, so you coming from a graveyard in a zombieland... :D Edited December 22, 2012 by Sebastijan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 lol, just noticed your location :D/> according to the SDS we are now Zombieland as well, so you coming from a graveyard in a zombieland... :D/> Soooo, I should accept all parties to come to the graveyard... for good :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Each noticable deviation from the real heli will be corrected, and getting the beefy plastics thin is one of them. I'm thinking, the engine cowlings will be one of those "make it or brake it" features on this one so I'll take my time. Obvious before and after: Front part also gets its treat. Not the most fitting part. It's funny how looking at the reference photos you learn features about the real thing you never knew - for me thats the curved aft side of the main rotor opening. Working on it... Does anybody know what can be seen through the opening FWD and up from eng intake's "NO STEP" (little round opening, on both sides of the cowling)? Hydraulics are FWD of that cowling. Also, any good top shots for upper structure-walkways especially- would be appreciated. Edited December 26, 2012 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Engraving on the sides is roughly done, and the sides are temporarily together for finishing the upper and lower airframe. This heli has as many openings as does swiss cheese. None on the basic model of course, thats what makes it fun. Edited December 29, 2012 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 If I remember right,(25 years ago), you could see the back side of the accessory module and the front of the input module.HTH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Thank you. So it's a part of XMSN? Any pics out there? I'll try to build the interior as far as it can be seen through the openings in the airframe. Edited December 29, 2012 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Behind the engine air inlet fairing(black thing marked no step) there is actually a hollow tube running off the input module up into that accessory mod. Inside of that tube was the output shaft that drove the accessory module that has the generators and hydraulic pumps attached to them. Sorry no pics right now, but if you go to google images and type I'm uh-60 input module or accessory module, I'm sure you'll find something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Thank you, I'm on it. My link Got it... To my amazement, there is nothing special to look at through those two holes. Hydraulics and generator are fwd of that inspection hole... And I'm afraid its actually a part of input module I'll need to build. Edited December 29, 2012 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Those holes are actually nothing more than grab holds for you to put your hand on and grab when you are climbing up the side of the chopper. The're not inspection holes like people think they are sometimes. Keep up the good work, it's looking good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heloman Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Stunning work, I'll be following your build thread closely, thanks for the comments re the Archers rivets, I was just about to waste $20 plus. Have you seen the ones from HGW in CZ not sure what they are like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) I actually did waste $20 but not for riveting the outside of the structure. I might use it on some engine detailing, not on this one, but for future projects. I checked HGW (I didn't know about that company before, so thanks for sharing) and its stunning what they did on some planes. Unfortunately they didn't do a black hawk. I'll check their rivets, but just by looking at that Huey, they seem big. I was fooling around with RB's saws, just to check if I can do something and to my amazement, they are great. Any close up shots for detailing the suppressor bracket? I went for ESSS and found huge gaps between the elements. Academy should do another black hawk, this time like it is... as I noticed huge discrepancy between the model and real thing just by looking at my desktop photo. The real deal has lower structure just behind the top cockpit windows, exposing the upper housing guide rails and than the structure climbs back up to ESSS shround. So I went for repairing the dog house rail holes and continued with grinding off the upper fuselage structure so it seems a bit more convincing... at least to me :D/> Edited April 2, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Just hours till midnight! I wish everyone a happy new year! I hope we all have a great time in our man-holes building what we like. Jure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Good progress. That engine photo/flight controls servos is so cool. That would be fun to duplicate. Keep posting. Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Thank you Oliver, Yes it would look interesting, but it would take such a long time, and I have so many projects waiting. If I make one model (the current way) per year, I'm good till my 50th birthday, and that would not clear my stash :D I'll just make what is visible through the openings, nothing more, nothing less (I hope) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
norbert Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Hi Phoinix Nice to see another blackhawk build keep posting Norbert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) With my Bug and the edge of Eduard etch I made the rails for the upper cowling (doghouse) which is light years from what Academy intended to represent rails. I used bison epoxy to attach it and level the rail with the structure. Edited January 24, 2013 by Phoinix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doupnik Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Great looking build!! Looking forward to more. mason Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 Thank you Mason, some update: I fitted the dog house on the rails and I added the primer to the airframe (not on the photos), so I finished a step in the airframe process (underside engraving is left for later). Next steps will be on the interior, but not the cabin. I'm talking about the XMSN deck, tail rotor gearboxes and stuff that is visible through the openings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arkhunter2002 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Looking forward to seeing how you do this. I'd like to replicate it in 1/72 eventually for at least one build. Take care, Austin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phoinix Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Its so much work doing it in 35 scale, so many details you really need to focus on only one, otherwise its into the box, for times where time is of no essence... never completed sign above. I have got to remmember to take good reference photos from this one to make the pavehawk build easy for myself. So many details go by unnoted easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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