rotorwash Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Next up: the left engine cowling. As you can see here, I think the PE screens are worth the price of admission. Which leads me to PE in general. How the heck do you modeling gurus glue PE to the model? Every time I put down some CA and place the part, I get extra glue everywhere. Is there some secret ritual you must perform to avoid this or am I just not talented enough? Since I am going to button my engine up, I decided to glue the cowling to the fuselage. It ain't exactly a perfect fit, but I started by gluing the rear of the cowling first and getting the best fit I could and then letting that dry. Next I glued the front and used a bit of gentle persuasion to keep the alignment correct. Finally I checked the fit and realized that the cowling is a bit too wide so I sanded it down till the fuselage halves met without a big gap. It's not totally critical that the fit be perfect as it's a bit dodgy on the real deal a lot of time. Anyway, Here are before and after pics. More coming soon. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Looking good Ray. Which leads me to PE in general. How the heck do you modeling gurus glue PE to the model? Every time I put down some CA and place the part, I get extra glue everywhere. Is there some secret ritual you must perform to avoid this or am I just not talented enough? How are you laying the glue down? I have been using the Gunze Sangyo Mr. Glue Applicators link and Gorilla glue link but I have also used Gator Grip link with either their applicator or number 11 blade. You could also use the end of wire or toothpick. HTH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share Posted February 12, 2013 Looking good Ray. How are you laying the glue down? I have been using the Gunze Sangyo Mr. Glue Applicators link and Gorilla glue link but I have also used Gator Grip link with either their applicator or number 11 blade. You could also use the end of wire or toothpick. HTH Thanks for the ideas. I have some of the Gator Grip. Maybe I'll try that as it's water based and I can just wipe the excess away. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 (edited) H*() No! That's Oliver's universe. I'm building her sitting in a revetment just after a mission. How about you, open engine on your bird? Ray Hell no!! after seeing Oliver´s T-53 no way, my plan was to build it with the engine bay open, but no, it requires a lot of work, sadly i cannot do what Oliver did in his turbine, BTW, Oliver, you should cast your turbine, please!! Ray, your Bravo its coming along nicely, for the engine cowling grilles i glue them with CA using stretched sprue gluing them from the inside. Keep it on!!! Rod. Edited February 14, 2013 by salvador001 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Time for an update. First, the back cabin wall. While i like to think I have a pretty good grasp on Huey anatomy, I am always finding new things. Case in point, it turns out that the fabric cover over the transmission access panel goes all the way to the floor as you can see on this old girl at the Huntsville Veterans Museum. Soo, back to the drawing board. This time I made the cover much thinner and also added snaps. I know they are a bit too big, but I think they still look OK. I've also added some of the PE tie down rings to the wall. I have more to do and the pencil lines show where other attachment points go. Sorry for the glare on the lead foil. I also did some work on the roof. You can see the inset commo boxes in this pic along with a light in the lower right corner. There are also two air ducts right beside the commo boxes. I set about adding all these bits to the model. I couldn't inset the boxes like the real aircraft because of the thin ceiling in the kit so I did the best I could with plastic sheeting and tiny bits of styrene rod for knobs. Not even close to accurate, but it gives a sense something is there. The lights are modified from the Cobra Company UH-1D/H upgrade set. The vents are cut pieces of styrene tube. Original kit part for comparison. Did a little on the IP. First I added some styrene bits to the back for drilling out wiring holes and then I painted it with Vellejo black gray with just one drop of pure black added. I think it came out pretty well. Well I guess it's time to show a bit of my photoetch work in the cockpit. In particular, I wanted to show that if you intend to use the Eduard parts for the nose frame, you will need to add a couple of pieces of styrene to the kit floor at the areas indicated by the red arrows. If you don't, the PE can't be glued to the kit part along that edge without warping. Last for this update, I wanted to talk M-60's. Below are M-60A's from five different kits. From bottom to top: Siminar UH-1B kit, MRC/Academy UH-1C kit, Italeri Modern US Weapons set, Dragon Vietnam weapons set, and Dragon Vietnam Helicopter crew set. To me this is a no brainer, DRAGON MAKES THE BEST PLASTIC 1/35 M-60A's. Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. Next up is more PE in the cockpit, pilot seats, and some more roof work. Ray Edited February 17, 2013 by rotorwash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Nice work. Looks clean from here. Looking forward to more update on your build. Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It is looking great so far Ray. Can't wait to se more progress. I agree on the Dragon weapons too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Melgyver Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hey Ray! Great work! Thanks for sharing your build! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks for the ompliments guys. Mel, I'm glad you like the build. I will be particularly interested to see if it passes the "crewchief test!" Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fredbird Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 for ten years I'm trying to finish my UH-1B seminar,thank you for the shot of the interior roof,now mine is not correct! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 for ten years I'm trying to finish my UH-1B seminar,thank you for the shot of the interior roof,now mine is not correct! Well, looks like you are much farther along than me. What are your plans for blades? Or were yours not destroyed by the rubber ammo belts like mine? Regading the roof, I think yours looks great. It's not 100% accurate, but neither is mine. Also, some units removed the padding from the roof. Then it would look like this. Thanks for stopping by and please post some more pics of your build, or even better, join the Huey fun and start your own build thread. You can never have too many Hueys! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fredbird Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) thank you for this additional photo! belts of ammunition had eaten the landing pads that were in contact with them.if I have the patience maybe I will realize the ceiling of UH 1C academy ..... in five or six years! :whistle:/> Edited February 18, 2013 by fredbird Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) thank you for this additional photo! belts of ammunition had eaten the landing pads that were in contact with them.if I have the patience maybe I will realize the ceiling of UH 1C academy ..... in five or six years! :whistle:/>/>/> Those dang ammo belts always eat something in that kit! For tonights installment, I rebuilt the cockpit ceiling to more closely resemble the original. The extra light was made using a drop of resin from a cast I made earlier. Looks almost as good as CC ones from a distance. First I sanded all the shallow detail off the kit part. Then I made another commo box and inset it like the other two and did quite a bit of styrene scratchwork around the fuse panels. The flat pentagon-shaped piece will be the base for the Minigun gunsight mount later on. I still have to add a few bits but the structural parts are complete. Anyway, I think it is a vast improvement over the kit part if I do say so myself. Ray Here's what I was going for: Edited February 18, 2013 by rotorwash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Carbon copy if u ask me Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Great job Ray, very impressive. Looks like some of that interior PE would be of use on a D/H. That's good to know for future projects. Regards, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Great job Ray, very impressive. Looks like some of that interior PE would be of use on a D/H. That's good to know for future projects. Regards, John Thanks for the compliment, Oliver. It means a lot coming from the master. John, Glad you like the progress so far. If it turns out half as good as you're late war H model, I'll be exstatic. I agree about the PE beng useful for a D/H model. My only concern would be some of the structural pieces like the nose frame parts, since the Dragon/Panda Huey is actually closer to 1/32 than 1/35. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thanks for the compliment, Oliver. It means a lot coming from the master. John, Glad you like the progress so far. If it turns out half as good as you're late war H model, I'll be exstatic. I agree about the PE beng useful for a D/H model. My only concern would be some of the structural pieces like the nose frame parts, since the Dragon/Panda Huey is actually closer to 1/32 than 1/35. Ray Not to go OT but I thought it was the old Revel kit that was 1/32? The Dragon kit has enough issues, I thought one of it's few positive attributes was that it was dimensionally correct! With regard to quality, I think you've got me beat so far. I wish I had the benefit of seeing all these great builds before I started that end-of-war Huey. You get so many good ideas from seeing other's work. Looking forward to your next post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Not to go OT but I thought it was the old Revel kit that was 1/32? The Dragon kit has enough issues, I thought one of it's few positive attributes was that it was dimensionally correct! With regard to quality, I think you've got me beat so far. I wish I had the benefit of seeing all these great builds before I started that end-of-war Huey. You get so many good ideas from seeing other's work. Looking forward to your next post. Maybe you are right about that. I'll have to pull out a ruler and check. I have always had a sense it was a bit too big for 1/35 scale, but perhaps that's just those dang golf balls that are supposed to be rivets! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arkhunter2002 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Heya Ray, The Huey is coming along very well. I agree that sometimes the way the kits are made, certain details have to be impressions instead of scaled versions. Love the scratch work. As far as vent PE goes and superglue goes, I mess that one up a lot too. My 'quick fix' is to lightly scrape an xacto blade along the PE part, holding it perpendicular to the surface. Lookin forward to more! Take care, Austin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Longbow Mech Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Wow Ray! Playing catch up here and it looks awesome! Brock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Wow Ray! Playing catch up here and it looks awesome! Brock Brock, Good to have you back, man! Thanks. You've reminded me I better get my butt in gear and post an update! Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huey_crew_chief Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Looking good Ray! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALEXANDRE REZENDE Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Hello Ray, Any news on this excellent work? I'm learning a lot here! [] s :D/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 Hello Ray, Any news on this excellent work? I'm learning a lot here! [] s :D/>/> Alexandre, Well now ghat you mention it, I should have an update very shortly. I sorta hit a modeling funk and was dreading all the itsy bitsy PE work, but I'm getting back in the groove I think. Thanks for the encouragement. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Brock, Good to have you back, man! Thanks. You've reminded me I better get my butt in gear and post an update! Ray Ray, Get cracking Mister. We want to see update. Oliver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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