Brad-M Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Guys, Just wondering if the F-4B Academy kit can be built as the Airforce F-4C? TIA Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parabat Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Or, just wait till they release the C/D version, should be later this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) No, the F-4B has the original thin wing. The F-4C and all other Phantoms have a much thicker inboard wing, with beefier main gear legs/wheels/tires. The F-4B can only be built as an F-4B/N (the N is an updated F-4B). Edited February 25, 2013 by Jennings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the quick replies guys. So, the F-4B's that were loaned to the USAF for evaluation, do pics of these exist? Were they just painted in US Navy markings and passed to the USAF, or did the Airforce repaint them after they received them? Thanks again Brad Edited February 25, 2013 by Brad-M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The F-4's that were given to the USAF for evaluation were F-110 later changed to F-4C Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Navy paint but Air Force markings. 5th photo down. another one Might have some color ones at home. Edited February 25, 2013 by Spectre711 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockRiver Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The paint scheme initially was the same anyway iirc. I have a photo in a book with an overpainted F-4C (SEA camo over Grey/White), were the Green/Green/Tan chipped off so badly that the US AIR FORCE writing on the fuselage side is 1/3 or so visible. Quite an interesting modelling subject, by the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 Great, thanks guys for the links and pics. Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Rock, the aircraft that had the SEA camo flaking off of the USN Gray colors were from a later batch,,,,,those were actual thick winged real F-4C All of the F-4B that were loaned to the USAF and flew in USN Light Gull Gray were returned to the Navy before Vietnam you can tell the batches apart by the serial numbers, if they are 149405, 149406 or 121xx, then they are thin winged loaners, if 37xxx or higher numbers on the tail, they were real F-4C Edited February 25, 2013 by Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Many (many) early F-4C and RF-4C were in the Light Gull Gray over white scheme. There's a shot of the entire ramp at MacDill AFB filled with grey over white F-4Cs in 1964. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captoveur Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 So I notice in the F-110 picture there is a Sparrow hanging on the inboard pylon. Was that a legitimate load? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The paint scheme initially was the same anyway iirc. I have a photo in a book with an overpainted F-4C (SEA camo over Grey/White), were the Green/Green/Tan chipped off so badly that the US AIR FORCE writing on the fuselage side is 1/3 or so visible. Quite an interesting modelling subject, by the way. Aeromaster had one out in this set. My link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 oops, sorry,,,,,left out the "4" in the loaner F-4B serials in my last line and as I said,,,,,,there were two batches, that pic of the LGG over White with the red bombs is one of the first two F-4B loaners the LGG over White C models that got repainted were really, truly from the batch of C model jets that caused the return of the LGG over White B models to the USN, as the C came off the production line Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Captoveur, yes, that Sparrow is a legitimate load In fact, the Sparrow was the only legitimate load on the "missile pylon", unless the TER adapter was fitted or the Sidewinder rails on the shoulders of the missile pylon. The USAF used the same name for that pylon, and called the "USAF pylon" the "weapons pylon", that later rounded top style is the only inner pylon that could carry weapons directly on it's bottom, and required a missile rail or adapter to carry missiles on the bottom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Williams Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 So I notice in the F-110 picture there is a Sparrow hanging on the inboard pylon. Was that a legitimate load? The original design purpose for the F-4 was for a fleet defense interceptor and it was designed to carry a Sparrow under each inboard pylon in addition to the four in the belly recesses. A Sparrow missile rail was integrated into the bottom of the Navy "straight" pylons. The "F-110"s were F-4Bs loaned to the USAF for training until their dedicated F-4C versions were delivered. As noted, a small adapter was necessary when attaching A-G stores or ejector racks to the underside of the Navy pylon. On the plus side, the adapter allowed the stores to hang lower below the pylon, which allowed Sidewinders to be carried on the sides of the pylons at the same time as A-G stores. I don't think USAF F-4s could do the same for most of the Vietnam war. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 images Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I believe one might be able to get an Academy F-4C sooner as I seem to recall reading somewhere that Academy has done an ROKAF F-4C for the internal South Korean market only. But, stuff like that does pop up on eBay from time to time given its international popularity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockRiver Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Rock, the aircraft that had the SEA camo flaking off of the USN Gray colors were from a later batch,,,,,those were actual thick winged real F-4C All of the F-4B that were loaned to the USAF and flew in USN Light Gull Gray were returned to the Navy before Vietnam you can tell the batches apart by the serial numbers, if they are 149405, 149406 or 121xx, then they are thin winged loaners, if 37xxx or higher numbers on the tail, they were real F-4C I forgot that those loaner jets were the subject... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zark Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Very intresting subject...I think I know what you are talking about! As they say "...something I prepared earlier..." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Nice. How did you do the camera pods? Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I believe one might be able to get an Academy F-4C sooner as I seem to recall reading somewhere that Academy has done an ROKAF F-4C for the internal South Korean market only. But, stuff like that does pop up on eBay from time to time given its international popularity. Any recent news on this special release for the Korean Market? Or when the C/D is coming? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pminer Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Be patient. Academy is to release in 2013 the McDD F-4C "Vietnamese War" Phantom II - ref.12294 . This new variant will have wings made from new tooling. Source: http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=260074 V.P. Uhhhh....just sayin. IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE AND UPDATE ON THE C/D FROM ACADEMY!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I'm sure it'll be out just as soon as Academy wants it to be... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Sheesh. Do some people have no stash? ;) Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F4DPhantomII Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Andre Oh I have a stash.But I want a Academy F-4C/D to replace my old Hasegawa ones. After working on Phantom II's for almost 3 years I love them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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